From Jason Gunthorpe, maintainer of 5 Linux kernel subsystems:

IMHO the current situation of Rust does not look like success. It is basically unusable except for unmerged toy projects and it is still not obvious when that will change.

Today I learned that my Apple AGX GPU driver, which is the kernel side to the world's first and only OpenGL and Vulkan certified conformant driver for Apple Silicon GPUs, and also the FOSS community's first fully reverse engineered driver to achieve OpenGL 4.6 conformance, and which is used by thousands of Asahi Linux users in production, and that literally has never had an oops bug in production systems not caused by shared C code (unlike basically every other Linux GPU driver), is "an unmerged toy project".

(He works for Nvidia, I guarantee he's heard of it, considering we beat nouveau and NVK to GL 4.6 conformance.)

I guess this is what Linux kernel maintainers think of us Rust developers, that we only write "toy projects"...

Linux-for-Rust or Rust-for-Linux [LWN.net]

@lina An angle I haven't seen mentioned is: where will all the new blood for the Linux kernel come from? I speculate that the average age amongst the Rust fans is lower than that of the C die-hards. If the Ted and friends are driving away the Rust people then Linux will suffer long-term.

@lina I took a quick glance at Redox and even ran the demo (impressive progress). However it's clear that Redox is a Linux alternative, much like *BSD, not a drop-in replacement, with full application compatibility. I don't see it unseating Linux in any near future.

I used Linux from the start and hacked on the 0.12 kernel. I contributed the 1st SCSI driver to 0.95 and fixed bugs in the FPU emulation. The reason Linux made so much progress so fast was because the roadmap was ...
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@lina ... laid out by POSIX and the GNU applications. Basically, runs these apps and you have instant value. Only once Linux reached feature parity with, say, SunOS did it start to seriously extend the feature space.

Redox seems IMO a bit too eager to reinvent the whole world and that will make it a niche effort.