One of the fundamental #Russia narratives about the war was always that it’s “for protection of #Donbas”, except what they were doing since 2014 exactly opposite of protection. Economy of Donbas has dramatically deteriorated since Russia’s first invasion in 2014, industries were raided by organised crime, mines flooded and taken apart for scrap metal.

Humanitarian situation under Russian rule in Donbas has been also dire, even in places which weren’t bombed by Russian sieges, like Donetsk. Rule of law is parody even when compared to mainland Russia - there’s group of people who can do literally anything and won’t be prosecuted (Russian army, Kadyrovites, organised crime) and there are those who will be prosecuted for nothing, only to extort bribes and ransom.

Here’s a daily crime story from “Life in DNR” Telegram channel that reads like… I don’t know really if there’s any other place on Earth where people would live like that:

A woman from Makeevka smeared faeces on a stairway in Textil quarter - this way she revenged for a rape by a local man.

The news, in the best traditions of objective journalism, presents the narrative of both sides - she says she was raped, he says they had a relationship. She says she didn’t go to police “because of principles”, meaning a criminal “code of honor” which became a parallel legal system in Russia since Putin became president.

The level of civilization decline in Russia-occupied territories is quite shocking, especially as I was there in person as recently as 2013, just before the war started. Donetsk and the whole Donbas was a pretty standard industrial region, many of which you can see in Eastern Europe. Nobody was prosecuting people for speaking Russian (I did speak Russian there!) and nobody was dropping bombs. It all started with Russian invasion in April 2014.

Later, when I was going to expeditions in Russian Caucasus, I’ve met some people who were refugees from Donetsk and it was interesting how their narratives changed. Initially, they were like “wow Russia will now make use wealthy and fix everything”, because this was what Russian TV was saying. After a year it all faded in their voices, they simply stopped talking about economic growth or future of Donbas - it’s when Russian organised crime replaced Ukrainian authorities there and literally started taking over everything.

Even now Russian narratives are completely inconsistent to the extent of being bipolar without noticing how absurd they’ve become. On one hand, they sustain the excuse that all the destruction and decline is “because of the ongoing war” (which they started) but it’s all going to be rebuilt. On the other hand, there was no full-scale war going on between 2015-2022, yet they’ve only stolen and rebuilt nothing. On yet another hand, Russians claim situation in Donbas is “special” but from their own legal perspective Donetsk is just as much part of Russian Federation as Moscow, so all the same laws should apply. Or Grozny, for that matter, where Russian laws barely apply in practice, but when you ask Russians they’re like “oh it’s just Chechnya”… except in theory it has the same laws as Moscow again 🤷

@kravietz I am pretty sure I can cherrypick a lot of such "news" from various places yet I won't.

However I can attest to the text from my personal experience. Sadly the life in DNR wasn't good after 2014 and Russia didn't do much to improve it in meaningful way. I had some friends living there and I ended up supporting them a bit through some shady banking scheme which involved sending money to certain address in Russia which then was transferred to the recipient in DNR - I guess this way it did not provoke sanctions but clearly fed some organized crime.

From the same experience I can say that quite a lot of DNR population did want to separate from Ukraine and join Russia and expected this to happen soon... which did not. Meanwhile they ended up with broken logistics and shortage of about just everything for years. Humanitarian aid (remember these "white convoys"?) often did not reach recipients and got resold by local crime orgs for speculative prices. Law enforcement was unstable and generally corrupt. It more or less stabilized in 2018 or so.

@kravietz Since then I keep wondering why Donbass events were handled by Russia so so bad.

It was almost like they wanted to fail.

@shuro

I don’t think they “wanted it to fail” because it assumes some kind of intentional plan. I think the apparent failure was caused by misunderstanding Russian goals in Donbas. Have you ever seen how situation looks like in #Abkhazia, South #Ossetia, #Transnistria? Their purpose was never to solve the ethnic conflicts, they were always maintained in suspended state in order to create problems for the other countries - #Georgia and #Moldova, respectively. “Problems” which Moscow controlled 100%, which allowed it execute pressure on these countries using “stick and carrot” strategy. Did Moscow care about the people living there? Not at all, because if they did, they would simply solve the situation there, one way or another.

The organised crime is just a side effect - you’ve got the same “state-sponsored gangs” in Abkhazia, South Ossetia and Transnistria. I know plenty of Russians who in 2010’s registered their cars in South Ossetia or Abkhazia, because it allowed them not to pay custom fees and not even pay speeding tickets 😂 All kind of contraband was going through these “republics” too, but it was just a convenient side effect from the geopolitical goals.

The purpose of DNR and LNR was 100% the same - prevent Ukraine’s accession to EU by creating an endless “civil war”. Moscow agreed to Minsk Agreements, because if Ukraine fully implemented it, then the whole Ukraine would effectively turn into a large DNR. Fortunately, when #Ukraine saw Moscow doesn’t intend to implement any of their obligations (ceasefire, internationally observed referendum, control of the border), it stopped doing it on their side and the trick didn’t work.

And of course, Russia promised that DNR will “join Russia soon”, except that’s exactly what they promised to the above “republics” for the last 30 years. This sounds stupid and naive, but let’s just remember that regular Russians had been also believing Putin’s promises for the last 30 years and drawing no conclusions from their failures 🤷