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Enkiusz🇺🇦@jeffowski how does one know this i wonder?
Mike@jeffowski If that was the case the trickle-down economics would be responsible for 70% of the common well being. Even you have to admit that’s a BS
@ikentcpel -- It has been a known fact that we have been producing enough food on the planet that no one should go hungry. This has been this way for over fifty years.
We have been at the same place for shelter. There are enough resources that no one should be without shelter. It has been this way for over 20 years.
You only need to google shit. Make sure to put yourself into INCOGNITO mode so that your obvious bias in previous searches doesn't interfere with the results.
We have been at the same place for shelter. There are enough resources that no one should be without shelter. It has been this way for over 20 years.
You only need to google shit. Make sure to put yourself into INCOGNITO mode so that your obvious bias in previous searches doesn't interfere with the results.
@jeffowski I don’t disagree we have enough for everyone to live out or poverty. This does not prove the statement you copied here in any way. “Living a good life” for vast majority would be quite a bit more than just having enough food and shelter.
@ikentcpel -- Wow... I guess your google doesn't work.
I mean, if you're too lazy for Google, did you try ChatGPT?
You came here to waste my time.
I mean, if you're too lazy for Google, did you try ChatGPT?
You came here to waste my time.
Syulang@jeffowski @ikentcpel This is true. It's also true that our current consumption levels are wildly unsustainable. Monocrop agriculture as it's practiced day causes massive soil loss that is only compensated for by constantly "clearing" new land and heavy use of fossil fuel based petrochemical fertilisers. Almost all fisheries are dealing with unsustainable takes and many have collapsed or are on the verge of it. Aquaculture is ironically responcile for much of this as the species humans favour in aquaculture are carnivorous, so actually encourage more overfishing to supply the feed for aquaculture species.
The situation with timber and with metal ore mining and processing for shelter is similarly unsustainable, not to mention energy needs, consumer goods etc. etc.
Reducing production and ensuring equitable distirbution would go a long way to correct this, but part of that does mean that many people in the global west will need to get a reality check. Billionaires a bit part of the problem, but overconsumption doesn't stop there. Middle class conspicuous consumption by the lawn loving "aspirational" classes of suburban Adelaide need to give up the yank tank and their frequent flier status
@Syulang @ikentcpel — absolutely nothing can be done sustainably while the human population keeps growing and we don’t get off the Earth.
@jeffowski @ikentcpel I agree 100% about our numbers. Infinite growth is impossible, be it GDP, population or any form of consumption.
Leaving Earth is neither possible nor desirable, however. It's a technosolutionist pipe dream, dreamed by a people desperate to carry on with Business as Usual, no matter what the cost. Ultimately, we will either play our part as a responsible species on Earth, living with the boundaries and ways of the wider ecosystem, or we die with the consequences of doing otherwise.