Self-indulgent rant:

One reason why IMO, the case against "AI" is as cut and dried as the case against cryptocoins is that shutting those two sectors down through government action would immediately solve the household energy transition for Iceland, for example

The maths is fairly straightforward: switching personal transportation over to electricity here would roughly double household power consumption (give or take, with the assumption that current plans to improve public transport pan out)

We don't have that much excess power generation. We even have to occasionally limit power delivery to heavy users

Increasing power generation that much requires tough choices: we'd have to ruin the environment some way. We just don't have that many locations left for hydro or geothermal. Most locations that remain are popular tourist sites—destroying them would be bad for the economy—important ecosystems, or would require improvements to the grid that nobody seems to be willing to pay for

However, datacentres in Iceland are almost exclusively used for "AI" or crypto. You can't buy regular hosting in these centres for love or money. If you buy hosting in Iceland, odds are that the rack is in an office building in Reykjavík somewhere, not a data centre

And those data centres use more power than Icelandic households combined

But, instead, the plan is currently to destroy big parts of places like Þjórsárdalur valley, one of the most green and vibrant ecosystems in Iceland

That’s one of the reasons why I take it personally when people use “AI” models and cryptocoins. You are being complicit in creating the demand that is threatening to directly destroy the environment I live in. None of this shit would be happening if there wasn't demand so I absolutely do blame you, personally, if you are a regular user of either of these things

There’s a cost to these tools and you’re pushing it onto others like an asshole

So, fuck you and the AI-generated horse you rode in on

@baldur seems every time we get a new tool, this happens. Previously was when car manufacturers started to use robots. I'm sure people who made horse drawn wagons said the same thing when cars started to get popular.

@chrisamoody @baldur looking at the current state of environmental destruction, I'm inclined to agree with the hypothetical people protesting new tools in car manufacture.

In other words, you're using the existing status quo, which is literally in the process of rendering the planet uninhabitable, as a defense of something that's even more obviously destructive to the planet.

@kevingranade No doubt that AI has to become better at power consumption. Of course the fact that we have to use fossil fuels at all currently is simply awful, we should be 100% solar / wind by now.
@chrisamoody it needs to become like a dozen orders of magnitude more efficient and also start being worth using. Neither is plausible.
@kevingranade because humans think to small when it comes to good.