AeronMelonOldie but a goldie
GregorWhat the hell happened?
GladaedThey sat on a toilet with the lid up and just put their ass in the toilet instead of not doing that.
… And then they relearned the habit of looking down.
When a female friend of mine used to come over she would often leave the bathroom door open and the toilet seat down with the lid up. I didn’t like that because my cat used to drink toilet water. Also, when you flush, particles of what you’re flushing go everywhere. The lid minimises this. They proved it on Mythbusters www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFzgNSO6t6c
So I understand the feeling of someone not leaving the toilet how they found it when they use it in your home after being asked to stop it.
But mine was for reasons I’ve just explained.
You’re facing the toilet when you walk up to it. Surely you can see what state the seat is and change it accordingly? Can someone please explain to me why the toilet seat being up or the lid being down is stereotypically such a problem for women?
I hate to tell you but closing the lid doesn’t help. In fact your entire house is covered in a layer of fecal matter due to inside toilets.
Are these women just… How to say this delicately… Dumb? Like you walk into the bathroom facing the toilet. You can’t help but see it. Are you telling me they drop their pants and just do a trust fall onto the rim? I’m guessing no. I think it’s a meme and women just don’t want to have to put the lid up before going.
Literally yeah haha
This is 1000% a thing and I would be shocked if the majority of women who have lived with men haven’t experienced this at least once in their lives. It happens just like in this post: in the middle of the night, you don’t turn on the lights and you just go through the motions without thinking because you’re half asleep. Not a fun way to wake up. Super jarring, kinda hurts, gets your ass wet, and that lip of the toilet is just generally a little grosser than the seat.
I mean, I’m a guy, I generally just leave the seat down 99% of the time and pee without lifting it. If there’s any drips or splashes I’ll just wipe it up. But every time I go in to poo or pee sitting down at night I always just check to make sure the toilet is how I want it. There’s no reason not to just give it a quick check.
Muscle memory, going on autopilot, and it not being immediately obvious in the dark. Idk what to tell y’all, when you sit down to use the bathroom 100% of the time it’s just not top of mind when you’re barely awake.
grysbokAnd some of us can’t get back to sleep easily if we turn on the big light at 3 am.
As a woman myself, I often have to pee in the middle of the night. I don’t want to wake my husband by turning on the bathroom light, which leaks around and under the door. Honestly, I don’t want to shock my own brain that much awake either, I just want to pee, wipe, flush, wash hands and go back to sleep. I can do all that in the dark. Fortunately my husband never leaves the seat up. Our new toilets have the “quiet close” lids, so we can flick it closed, and see that the flush worked while the lid goes slowly down.
The post mentions it is at 2 am so our toilet tumbler may have entered the bathroom without any lights and just went through the motions.
Seems like a dumb thing to do
The first motion is to reach down and lift the lid. If you don’t feel the lid, you curse yourself for having kids, lower the seat, and sit normally. Then you close the lid when you’re done.
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I don’t know for sure, but it looks like Facebook.
I paid for the seat I’m gonna use the seat
Just close it entirely before you flush, people. The fact that there’s a debate between fully open and half-open when both are inferior is baffling.
VlynCounter point: I know plenty of people who close the lid and then flush, then leave. So when you open the toilet you’re greeted by a floater or shit streaks over the bowl.
I flush with it open, check if it’s clean (otherwise use the brush and flush again) then leave.
If you want to close the lid you’d have to close it, flush, open it and check, clean, close it again. Are you doing that?
nullCounterpoint, if you leave the lid open, you’re flinging shit particles all over the bathroom, potentially onto toothbrushes.
Realistically they are going to get everywhere anyway, but I still close it in a harm reduction effort.
I’m going to continue to pretend it works lol.
So answer the question above, do you then lift the lid to check if it worked? Or do you believe your shit is magic, and makes all toilets work perfectly?
I shit in the same toilets with enough consistency to know they do the trick without further investigation.
Sounds like that horror story about the wife seeing the dude wipe once and be done with it saying that he’s never had to wipe more. She requested he don’t again and came back with another huge ass streak.
Homie, we all leave some gross shit now and then but dude above preaches when you have people in your house who dump floaters and streakers constantly. Nothing worse than opening the bathroom door to know you’ll be greeted with a gross ass half dissolved usually green tinted floater with half the bowl streaked and everyone acting like it wasn’t them. Meanwhile you end up having to try to piss blast it for a week but it’s so caked on by that point you actually have to take the extra 30 seconds to use the toilet brush…
Lolol I also own a bidet, regularly clean, and apparently eat more fiber than some of y’all. 😂
No doubt I’ll have some worse than others, but I assure you I’m not coming back to no bio hazards after one flush.
Often the problem isn’t really the fault of the last person who shat. It can be the kid who used way too much TP the night before and clogged the pipes. Or in our case it can even be one of the upstairs apartments, but that’s a real disaster.
Right.
One of the things I won’t miss about my last apartment (which was overall pretty fantastic) was how the plumbing was under-built when they constructed the otherwise overbuilt building back in the 60s or 70s.
This meant that on my end of the building, all 4 apartments (mine, the other one on my level at the end of the hall, and the two above us) all shared the same undersized drainage piping.
I was there 6 years, and averaged about 1.5 horrific backups per year that required a call to management, who had to come out, try to fix, then give up and call professionals (and twice in that 6 year span, the professionals even gave up and had to call in even more capable professionals).
In every case, I always asked them if there was anything I could be personally doing…or not doing…that might help.
In each case, the plumbers always said I was doing everything I could, even above and beyond considering the more capable drain filters I used on both sink and tub, and that the real issues were the long hair from the ladies in all 3 other apartments (not a criticism on them, just an observation that many of the clogs were long hair, vs my buzz cut), and in a few of the worst cases, flushed hygiene products (which prompted a mass email from the landlord that these things were not to be flushed, both feminine hygiene stuff and “flushable wipes”)…and in the worst backup, the two young girls in the family above me had flushed a wash cloth.
That last one was the worst by far. Had disgusting, chunky shit water/gray water cocktail backing up into toilet AND shower.
Confused_EmusMy friend, you either take some massive shits worthy of awe, or you’ve got a bad toilet if this is a regular issue for you.
That was tested with Mythbusters. When your toothbrush is nearby there was hardly a difference if you flush open or closed, sorry :)
Source?
I’m pretty sure you’re misremembering that episode. It didn’t involve lid closed vs open.
I could have sworn they tested both. I remember them concluding that lid position didn’t matter.
The toilet in the episode doesn’t even have a lid.
The human memory is such a fickle thing.
Ah, it had no lid, and unfortunately that part of the end-scene is cut off on YouTube. It was this video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb-_KRh8asM
The control toothbrushes outside the bathroom had the same amount of fecal coliformes on them. That stuff is everywhere, it doesn’t matter if you flush lid open or closed.
Mythbusters Toothbrush Fecal Matter
Again, source?
We’ve established that you misremembered the lid test already, so I don’t see why we should trust your memory on this.
I’m particularly skeptical of this assertion:
the same amount
I’m well aware there are some fecal particles all over the place. But common sense says that aersolaized, shit-filled toilet water (which the video confirms it does spray out droplets into the immediate area) would accumulate more on toothbrushes sitting closer to the toilet than in another room.
Edit: also, were they testing by flushing just normal toilet water? Or flushing after a shit?
Because if it was just toilet water, then the test isn’t even relevant to the discussion.
mythresults.com/hidden-nasties
Many objects that people touch every day are dirtier than a toilet seat.
I’d surely hope those tests were done with actually in-use toilets, lol. The toilet seat would be sprayed with the lid down, so it’s a good indicator?
And here is the toothbrush one mythresults.com/episode12 (on the bottom). Maybe you can find the full TV episode, right now I can’t.
Either way, as long as you don’t have a vacuum toilet that sucks everything down you won’t escape. I just rinse my toothbrush with water every time before I use it, which seems to be good enough so far.
Again, they weren’t flushing fresh bowls of shit, just standard toilet water.
You’re absolutely spraying shit all over your toothbrush for no good reason, and that’s disgusting. Sorry :)
‘Hardly a difference’ and ‘no difference at all’ matters when it comes to ingesting doo doo particles. I opt for the absolute least amount possible, preferably none.
Ah, it had no lid, and unfortunately that part of the end-scene is cut off on YouTube. It was this video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb-_KRh8asM
The control toothbrushes outside the bathroom had the same amount of fecal coliformes on them. That stuff is everywhere, it doesn’t matter if you flush lid open or closed.
Mythbusters Toothbrush Fecal Matter
Run this quick experiment for me.
Hold your toothbrush/phone/anything on your bathroom counter above the toilet, with the lid open, then drop it. Repeat the experiment with the lid closed.
Which one offered a more preferential result?
I’ve never in my 33 years in life dropped something in an open toilet bowl. My toothbrush is above the sink, not the toilet. The only thing I store above the toilet is a spare roll of toilet paper.
I avoid the non-preferential result by…well…not dropping things in the toilet.
I’m in my late 30s and have literally never dropped anything in the toilet that I wasn’t intending to.
Sounds like a personal issue; maybe try not to be so clumsy?
I had to present this paper for a fluid mechanics class during COVID and yes, the particles do spread. The radius of contamination was almost 1,5m.
Shared bathrooms in hospitals, rehabilitation centers, or assisted living facilities are used by patients who might be infected, thus making them a likely source of indoor cross-contamination. The pathogen-spreading potential of toilet flushes was investigated in toilets seeded with microorganisms that were later recovered from surfaces and in the air after flushing. The organisms in the bowl could not be fully cleared even after repeated flushing, and the droplets produced by flushing harbored the organisms that were used for seeding, which remained airborne and viable.
Recently, Johnson et al. (2013a) investigated different toilet designs and found that up to 145,000 sampled particles can be produced per flush.
Analysis of more recent data revealed that a large number of droplet emissions are not visible to the naked eye (d < 100 µm) (Figure 6b). These emissions account for more than 6 mL and can remain sus- pended in the air for a long time compared to the larger visible drops (with diameters up to 6 mm) that end up on surfaces.
The larger visible drops settle on surfaces within milliseconds, whereas the smaller, invisible drops are advected by local airflow (on the order of a few centimeters per second). Droplets settling on surfaces can be tackled in accordance with surface decontamination procedures of local infection control protocols. However, no system or protocol currently addresses air contamination. Furthermore, usual cleaning solutions not effective in neutralizing the most resistant pathogens, such as the spores of C. difficile, may even contribute to their dissemination by effectively lowering the surface tension, for example, down to 30 mN/m, compared to water at 72 mN/m, increasing the local Weber number and thus promoting fragmentation into either more or smaller droplets, depending on the fragmentation mechanism.
The Fluid Dynamics of Disease Transmission | Annual Reviews
For an infectious disease such as the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) to spread, contact needs to be established between an infected host and a susceptible one. In a range of populations and infectious diseases, peer-to-peer contact modes involve complex interactions of a pathogen with a fluid phase, such as isolated complex fluid droplets or a multiphase cloud of droplets. This is true for exhalations including coughs or sneezes in humans and animals, bursting bubbles leading to micron-sized droplets in a range of indoor and outdoor settings, or impacting raindrops and airborne pathogens in foliar diseases transferring pathogens from water to air via splashes. Our mechanistic understanding of how pathogens actually transfer from one host or reservoir to the next remains woefully limited, with the global consequences that we are all experiencing with the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic. This review discusses the emergent area of the fluid dynamics of disease transmission. It highlights a new frontier and the rich multiscale fluid physics, from interfacial to multiphase and complex flows, that govern contact between an infected source and a susceptible target in a range of diseases.
SkunkWorkzIf you smell a fart you are breathing in shit particles.
Neat, thanks for sharing that you don’t care how much shit you ingest. I’ll reduce my intake where I can, thanks.
Okay germaphobe
They said, with a literal shit-eating grin.
A little bit of shit is good for your immune system. I’m microdosing on feces to stay strong and healthy.
zarkanianIf you smell a fart you are breathing in shit particles.
This is incorrect. A fart smells bad because of gasses like methane, not poop particles.
(Also, relevant username.)
Yes I am doing that because I’m not a lazy savage
I am doing that, yes.
You should never flush with it open as the other commenter wrote. Flush closed, then check after ~30sec again if there is a floater or stains. I have a friend I needed to explain that if he flushed open with his toothbrush in the vicinity, he could just go and put the toothbrush in the toilet bowl, not much of a difference.
That was tested with Mythbusters. When your toothbrush is nearby there was hardly a difference if you flush open or closed, sorry :)
No, they didn’t test open VS closed.
It doesn’t matter. You do whichever placebos you into feeling like it’s better so you aren’t stressed about all the shit particles you’re breathing and scrubbing on your teeth.
Ah, it had no lid, and unfortunately that part of the end-scene is cut off on YouTube. It was this video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb-_KRh8asM
The control toothbrushes outside the bathroom had the same amount of fecal coliformes on them. That stuff is everywhere, it doesn’t matter if you flush lid open or closed.
Mythbusters Toothbrush Fecal Matter
Damn that’s new for me. Glad I have them in the cabinet anyway but this sucks
That just concentrates the airborne germs into a jet that shoots out between the seat and the rim.