FundMECFSTaliban bans the sound of women’s voices singing or reading in public
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GOP - “Write that down! WRITE THAT DOWN!”
“Wait… you just pass a law and women can’t talk? Call the Heritage Foundation and the Federalist Society. We have the final solution.”
Flying SquidDoes the law also apply to Marjorie Taylor-Greene?
Is there a way to make it only apply to Marjorie Taylore-Greene?
Do you think she reads books?
I think she makes sounds and I would like her to stop doing that.
Let’s maybe not call it the final solution.
It’s apt. Apt!
Pfft, they stole that from Project 2025, Appendix F
I feel like the Taliban rule workshopping is something like, “Okay, everyone write down ANYthing that get you off or arouses you. Alright, let’s see… ‘women’s feet,’ yeah, banned. ‘Clothes,’ okay banned. ‘Women singing.’ Y’all some fucked up, but also banned.”
They banned CLOTHES? >.>
UnderpantsWeevilWhat often graduates me is the “We never should have left Afghanistan! Look at what they’re doing to women!!” folks abutting the “We need to respect their customs. These theocratic dictatorships are just like that and there’s nothing we can do” folks who turn a blind eye to all our allies on the Saudi Peninsula, the African coast, and the Indian subcontinent get up to.
You need both in order to execute a new campaign of regime change, because arms and troops have to flow through friendly bases in India or Pakistan to get to Afghanistan. But the end policy only ever seems to be “we permit you to be horrible, so long as you’re committing these horrors on our team”.
Would love for a genuine trans-national feminist movement. But when feminism is a dead letter in our friends in Japan, Poland, and Israel, how the hell is it supposed to penetrate to our enemies in Bad Korea, Afghanistan, and Russia?
We don’t need to respect their customs. We need to respect their people, including their people’s need for emotional healthy relationships which are often in conflict with elements in their cultures that only feel entitled to dominate.
We don’t need to respect their customs.
We do if we want to move military personal through their territory without resistance.
Back when Americans were occupying Afghanistan, we had a seemingly unlimited tolerance for sexual abuse of minors and narco trafficking in the state. We needed the warlords to secure territory and the drug lords to underpin the local economy, in order to contain reactionary religious ideology.
Only after we left did we rediscover our duty to Afghan civilians.
people’s need for emotional healthy relationships which are often in conflict with elements in their cultures that only feel entitled to dominate
I don’t know how else you describe detonating the world’s largest fuel bomb over Nangarhar Province, if you’re not describing it as “entitlement to dominate”.
We weren’t in Afghanistan handing out hugs and flowers. We were killing dissidents en mass in order to suppress revolt.
You’re describing the political reality and I get that, it’s expedient. But that doesn’t mean it is also moral.
No, not at all. But then neither is looting the Afghani Treasury and sanctioning the country into a state of national famine.
PugJesusBut when feminism is a dead letter in our friends in Japan, Poland, and Israel,
The fuck
Isn’t beards required because a smooth faced man might cause impure thoughts?
MentalEdgeI don’t know about you guys but even as a straigh dude, especially glorious beards can also have me staring and acting unwise…
I say ban all beards.
As another straight dude, I don’t know what you’re talking about. I happen to have unrelated photos at the ready below.
They fear women, but they fear femboys the most
Religionheads are the worst
CALIGVLAWhy are they so afraid of women?
Power.
Who would be the servants and sexual submissives if women were free to do as they pleased?
cygnusConservative Sunni Islam’s attitude towards women basically boils down to men needing to see as little as possible of them, lest they become uncontrollably rapey. Shia are a little bit less misogynistic, and Sufi are significantly less so.
Conservative Sunni Islam’s attitude towards women basically boils down to men needing to see as little as possible of them, lest they become uncontrollably rapey.
I find that so utterly bizarre, like, you can’t control your sexual impulses like a normal person does unless every women in your field of vision is dressed like a Halloween ghost?
It’s the woman’s fault, obviously!
geneva_convenienceSunni Islam does not prescribe women being fully veiled nor does it forbid schooling. The Taliban are following tribalism not Islam.
I used “conservative” for a reason. Sunni men writ large consider the hijab mandatory, but not face coverings.
There is no conservative version of Sunni Islam which prescribes it. The word conservative means to adhere to tradion.
Worlds first university was created by an Islamic Sunni woman.
Full face coverings were only prescribed for the women of the Prophet. This is universally accepted.
What the Taliban is following is nothing more than tribalistic misogyny. A red pill cult. It has nothing to do with Islam.
I guess it’s just a coincidence that the most conservative Sunni countries are aggressively misogynistic? Unless Wahhabists are actually secret feminists.
Wahabism originated in Saudi Arabia worked with the British to overthrow the Islamic Caliphate. Anything originating in Saudi for the past few centuries should be taken with a large amount of salt.
Islam Doesn’t Deny Women Education, So Why Does the Taliban?
“Saudi misogyny is actually the fault of the British” is the second-most hilarious take I’ve read all year, right behind “making fun of LLMs for being bad at math is ableist” (an actual post I read on Mastodon).
The Caliphate was Islamic. Saudi waged war against the Caliphate.
Nothing here blames the British for misogyny. That is a strawman.
It’s more like societies with endogamous communal family structures like Islam – not even Sunni in particular. The worst misogyny historically doesn’t even happen there though but in exogamous communal family structures, things like widow burning in India, feet binding in China, or rape of your daughter-in-law in Russia: In the endogamous setting, all the misogyny is happening within a clan structure that includes the woman’s close kin, while in the exogamous setting she’s on her own.
Anthropologists are still very much in the process of figuring stuff out but particular family structures correlating to differing preferences in political ideology is a very interesting topic, it’s mostly thought of as representing deeper social values and ideal that are hard to get a handle on. No I won’t link Todd right now the guy has gone off the deep end regarding Ukraine, his stuff is worth reading but don’t only read him – not just because of Ukraine.
Probably because many local women would outright reject the Taliban, as partners and as masters, if they had a say.
MereoFor the Taliban, women are sexual slaves whose sole purpose is to be baby making machines: they’re not human beings.
SanctusNo they are extremely human. Human beings are completely capable of this complete dominance of each other. Dont ever dehumanize these atrocities. It paints a picture that we didn’t do it. We did.
I don’t think they were calling the Taliban less than human. Rather commenting on how the Talibam view women as less than human.
Yes. I’m talking about the Taliban’s sick mind. The Taliban do not view women as human beings.
The D QuuuuuillI think they meant “the Taliban doesn’t consider women to be humans”
Its explaining that dehumanization is how this shit happens
Now that I drank some coffee, yeah I can see that was probably the intention <.<
Coffee good. More.
But I already drank f-
MORE!!!
You don’t deserve these download down votes. Don’t ever change.
Its okay, everyone needs downvotes. They build character.
I like your mindset
For the Taliban, women are sexual slaves whose sole purpose is to be baby making machines
What a backward society. Under that thinking, a post menopausal woman would be useless.
Luckily we here in America have much more encouraging and progressive viewpoints from people like our VP nominee Vance who said the purpose of “postmenopausal females” is to provide backup childcare.
What a fucking weirdo
So exactly JD Vance’s stand
Same as Iran now.
Have these guys found Narnia yet? Because shit like this makes it seem like they’re deep in the closet.
Ex NummisYes, we know, radical Islam forbids joy of any kind. What a miserable existence.
lennybirdCan you believe it, MAGA has more in common with the Taliban and Russian neo-nazis than being American?
andrew_bidlawNever ask about:
A man - his wage
A woman - her age
A talib - what they do to a boy aged 5-12
TIL
And I wish I hadn’t.