SilverserenTrump’s Latest Scheme to Beat Harris May Have Crossed Legal Lines
Trump’s Latest Scheme to Beat Harris May Have Crossed... #trump #netanyahu #israel
The “genocide Joe” crowd is deafeningly silent on this development, i see. How surprising.
BlackmistDachau Donald? Treblinka Trump?
Terezin Trump is probably more appropriate, given the fakeness of both.
UnderpantsWeevilIs it ok for Democrats to continue financing a genocide because Trump said he’d do it, too?
Biden isn’t even in the race anymore. Why are you still trying to defend him?
knightly the SneptaurRight? Pretty sus that we’re suddenly not allowed to be anti-genocide… because Trump is pro-genocide?
Yeah let me join the downvote crowd. The most powerful military and the largest economy in the world is unable to stop its vassal state from carrying out a genocide for 10 months. But if I vote for this cop and her soldier friend instead of a real estate guy, we’ll magically change our ways and the bombs will stop falling. I have a bridge to sell you.
Did you people not read the link at all?
"Trump made a call to Netanyahu to tell him to do the things he was going to do anyway. This is possibly illegal (but he won’t be prosecuted for it so it isn’t illegal in an tangible sense).
Trump is actively trying to stop a ceasefire. A ceasefire that you ostensibly would support. So, why no criticism…?
Netanyahu has expressed no support for a ceasefire, going so far as to greenlight the assassination of the lead Palestinian diplomat.
So “Genocide Ben?” “Genocide Don?” No? Just genocide Joe? Still waiting for any kind of condemnation. Lacking that, it looks like you support this.
What do Trump and Netanyahu have to do with the Democrats’ position on genocide? Do they have some sort of control over the party or are you just playing “whataboutism” so you don’t have to talk about the DNC?
What does Democrats position on genocide have to do with the person running the country, committing the genocide?
If they opposed the commission of such crimes against humanity, then they would not assist in its perpetuation.
K let me try and put this as simply as I can, so that you fucking acorns can understand:
Joe Biden is working towards a cease-fire. That is a fact.
Donald Trump is actively discouraging Netanyahu from agreeing to a cease-fire. That is a fact. No bridges there.
You people are condemning Joe Biden, the guy now actively working towards a cease-fire.
You people are not condemning Donald Trump, the guy actively interfering with a cease-fire.
To reiterate, Donald Trump is actively, publicly, and aggressively supporting genocide, and Joe Biden is trying to get a cease-fire enacted, yet you Genocide Joe sycophants can’t see past your own biases to realize that.
Joe Biden is working towards a cease-fire. That is a fact.
He just sent them $20B in new arms exports.
FFS, Americans are the most propagandized people on earth. You’ll believe absolutely anything, except the truth.
The vast bulk of that deal is a contract for 50 F-15s, which are estimated to be delivered in 2029. He did not “just send them $20B in new arms exports”.
And Trump is interfering with a ceasefire. You don’t give two shits about Palestinians or genocide.
And Trump is interfering with a ceasefire.
Netanyahu has not demonstrated any interest in a ceasefire. Blaming this on Trump deflects the strong Israeli support for further genocide of the Gaza people.
Trump is on Netanyahu’s side regarding a cease-fire. If you have a problem with Netanyahu not entertaining a cease fire, you should have a problem with Trump trying to scuttle it.
That is, if your problem is actually with the genocide, and not just a weird personal vendetta against Joe Biden.
That is, if your problem is actually with the genocide, and not just a weird personal vendetta against Joe Biden.
Again, do you realize who is currently holding office?
A guy pushing for a cease fire.
You know who’s the subject of the article in the OP? Donald Trump, the guy actively trying to prevent a cease fire.
If you live in a state in which your vote will not matter anyway, you are better off voting for a candidate who actually wants a ceasefire. Jill Stein will secure more funding for the Green party if she breaches the 5% threshold. This bickering over which corporate oligarch party is less genocidal will get us nowhere.
I live in a state where I can’t throw my vote away
We’re talking about Donald Trump illegally interfering with cease fire efforts here, please let’s try and keep things on topic
What does Donald Trump have to do with us using what leverage we have to push the Democrats to stop supporting Genocide?
IDK, maybe by condemning Donald Trump for being unequivocally worse for the genocide could sway Trump voters to vote for someone else? You know, like the exact thing you were trying to get people to do by condemning Biden?
If you cared about stopping genocide, you’d be unequivocally against the candidate that wants to accelerate it.
Of course, the only thing that could get me to vote for Trump would be if he somehow managed to convince everyone that his administration would stop assisting Israel in the commission of genocide.
Sadly, the same applies to the Democrats. They are taking a big risk with their bet that they can win the election without the enthusiastic support of anti-genocide voters, but it’s their election campaign and they’re entitled to conduct it as they wish. Any success or failure at the ballot box is on them.
This you?
Netanyahu has not demonstrated any interest in a ceasefire.
So, the person actually running the country that’s committing the genocide you’re so against has less culpability than an ally that’s NOT committing genocide? Did i follow those mental gymnastics correctly?
Netanyahu > Biden > every other nationally elected leader on good terms with Israel > Howard Kor and Elliot Brandt > Jamie Dimon > a long list of senators and governors > Lachlan Murdoch > Ben Shapiro > Donald Trump
You when Joe Biden pushes towards a cease fire: 😠🤬😡😠🤬
You when Donald Trump actively interferes with cease fire efforts: 🙈🙉🙊🤡😇
You when Joe Biden pushes towards a cease fire
He just sent Israel another $20B in military equipment
Now you just sound like a 🤖 stuck in a loop 🤔
Trump’s Latest Scheme to Beat Harris May Have Crossed Legal Lines - sh.itjust.works
He may not be in office, but Donald Trump has been speaking with the powers that be about Israel’s war on Gaza—but it’s not in an effort to end the genocide. Instead, Trump has allegedly been talking with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to avert a cease-fire deal, fearing that doing so could help Vice President Kamala Harris win in November, according to PBS. “The reporting is that former President Trump is on the phone with the Prime Minister of Israel, urging him not to cut a deal right now, because it’s believed that would help the Harris campaign,” said PBS’s Judy Woodruff Monday night. “So, I don’t know where—who knows whether that will come about or not, but I have to think that the Harris campaign would like for President Biden to do what presidents do, and that’s to work on that one.”
You already said that several comments ago and were rebuffed.
$20m is change my dude, that’s like 1/2 a jet.
Is this the line you guys will try to push now that Joe has dropped off the ticket? It’s pretty weak.
Is “underpantsweeevil” some euphemism for “shit take” that I’ve never heard before?
CileTheSaneAgain, do you realize who isn’t currently holding office, has no responsibility or need to be involved in the situation, and is inserting themselves into the situation in an attempted to make sure the genocide continues?
And this person actively trying to make sure the genocide continues wants to hold office.
And this person actively trying to make sure the genocide continues wants to hold office.
Excuses excuses. Brotherhood of the traveling goalposts. Your bias is showing.
For jets that will not be delivered before 2029.
If the cop and her soldier friend don’t win the race, the person who will win is a rapist insurrectionist, he will facilitate the further erosion into total fascism, he will ramp up the genocide in Gaza and Ukraine, he will further remove human rights from our neighbors. The article is literally about this guy violating the law in attempt to prolong the genocide. For personal gain. Or you could throw your ballot in the trash, I guess.
Jill Stein meeds 5% to get the Greens increased federal funding. I like in a state where my blue vote wouldn’t matter. Seems pretty simple to me.
Oh. A completely different goalpost from what you originally wrote.
Lol. Enjoy your goal posts, soccer friend.
instead of a real estate guy
- Instead of a real estate guy who just called the person doing the genocide to ask him to keep genociding
FTFY
It’s amazing to miss the point so hard
The point being what? People who are trying to push Biden to stop a genocide aren’t bothering with Trump because they know he’s a lost cause?
SLVRDRGNThat’s an interesting point indeed. Yet that is not the typical sentiment I see/hear. But what I still don’t understand is, why would anyone vote for a lost cause in order to stick it to someone (Biden) who chooses (I disagree with him) not to budge? Will that make things better? Won’t it be worse?
Who’s voting for Trump? I haven’t met anyone on the left who is voting for Trump because of Palestine.
Any who are, idk, perhaps they are accelerationists who believe that by bringing contradictions to the forefront faster therefore being resolved faster.
Example: the slow genocide is carrying on without anyone stepping in. Maybe they hope Trump’s idea for a faster genocide will draw a reaction from other countries.
I’m not one of these people though and know none though so I can only speculate.
I think he was questioning why biden gets it but trump has no need of defense in this much more specific action.
why biden gets it but trump has no need of defense
Does anyone on this site think Trump isn’t routinely criticized for his foreign policy?
Biden’s the current president. He approved $20B in military spending for Israel just last week
That’s why he’s at the front of the line for this outcry.
US approves $20 billion in weapons sales to Israel
The U.S. has approved $20 billion in arms sales to Israel, including scores of fighter jets and advanced air-to-air missiles. The State Department made the announcement Tuesday. Congress was notified of the impending sale, which includes more than 50 F-15 fighter jets, Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles, or AMRAAMs, 120 mm tank ammunition and high explosive mortars and tactical vehicles. It comes at a time of intense concern that Israel may become involved in a wider Middle East war.
And Trump is trying to STOP A CEASE FIRE for his own personal gain. But mum’s the word, apparently.
its not about criticism in general its about the same group quickly jumping on and criticizing for their one issue with trump similar to how they do with biden. In particular given that this is trump trying to make it worse rather than just not taking action to make it better.
Because it’s expected for Trump to be a genocidal monster and nobody expects to win him or Republicana in general over.
And Trump is not even a public official and still calling the President of Israel trying to keep the conflict going.
to be fair neither was reagan when he did his thing with iran.
Okay, let’s not vote for Reagan either.
Hey, lookit that, I’m learning how to summon them!
Who defended Biden? I pointed out how y’all seem exceedingly quiet on the matter, and what’s your response? “Buh-buh-buh-Biden buh-buh-buh-bad!” I’ll give ya one thing, you’re as predictable as a Swiss watch.
Hey, lookit that, I’m learning how to summon them!
It seems like you’re looking for an excuse to be angry.
Yes, you typically get responses from people when you bring them up.
Who’s silent on this? Of course it’s evil, it’s expected though and everyone recognizes that it’s evil.
We speak about genocide Joe because we have hope that the Democratic party will listen. Like Obama said last night,
We start thinking that the only way to win is to scold and shame and outyell the other side. And after a while, regular folks just tune out, or don’t bother to vote at all.
That approach may work for the politicians who just want attention and thrive on division. But it won’t work for us. To make progress on the things we care about, the things that really affect people’s lives, we need to remember that we’ve all got our blind spots and contradictions and prejudices; and that if we want to win over those who aren’t yet ready to support our candidate, we need to listen to their concerns—and maybe learn something in the process
Who did i name in this thread? I mentioned the genocide Joe crowd, and someone said “here.” So, perhaps they felt called out…? Dunno, can’t say.
Not sure why you would expect them to be going nuts on this. This is just one more in a long line of terrible things Trump supports, but he is not going to change stance on this for a bunch of people not in his party complaining online.
Genocide Joe has run its course, in my opinion. Biden is no longer the nominee, and despite all the hand wringing about foreign shills by people who see Russian manipulation in their own shadows, polls seem to indicate this was an overwhelmingly positive move for the Democrats. Harris is not my ideal candidate, but the Genocide Joe moniker was part of a campaign during primary season and leading up to the nomination to not have Biden as the nominee, and it accomplished this.
This is just some weak what aboutism from sore losers. No shit Trump has worse stances on this issue than Biden, but I can’t vote in primaries other than my registered party in my state, and the GOP was never going to replace him as nominee over this issue anyway.
The “genocide Joe” crowd are, for the most part, well aware that Trump is just as bad for Gaza as Joe is. They’re not arguing for supporting Trump, they’re arguing that both choices are bad.
This is not a rational position, obviously, because if you care about protecting Palestine you’re still better off supporting the Dems to avoid the worse option of Trump, but for a lot of people it’s hard to stomach the idea of voting for a murderer, no matter what the justification is. The not entirely unreasonable argument is that voting for the Dems to avoid the worse option basically encourages the Dems to be more shitty because they know they can always throw the threat of the GOP in everyone’s faces when they’re called out. I don’t agree with this argument, but I see how it’s compelling to people.
They’re not Trump supporters - at least, not intentionally - they’re just sick of the whole dicochtomy of being asked to choose between bad and worse. I can understand their frustration, even if I don’t agree with the choice they’re making.
I agree, for the most part. However, i do believe a lot of them are Trump supporters, willingly.