Unpopular opinion: the only rule for having a Wikipedia page about a topic should be : "Would someone in the world ever look for information about this topic on Wikipedia?"

The reason why some zealots try to remove "non-notable enough" pages is because they think it is a badge of honor to be on Wikipedia.

The reason why it is a badge of honor is because some zealots spend their time removing pages considered "non-notable enough".

@ploum Since the main criterion for notability is "sufficient coverage in reliable sources", how do you suggest to write sourced content for topics lacking this coverage?
@StephanSchulz @ploum The things deletion warriors remove as "not notable" are not lacking sources. If they were lacking sources, the complaint would be low quality article lacking sources, not lack of notability.

@dalias @ploum Well, from the Horses mouth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability "We consider evidence from reliable and independent sources to gauge this attention."

Of course there may be cases of overzealousness, but this is the official position, and from my experience this is usually followed.

Wikipedia:Notability - Wikipedia

@StephanSchulz @dalias @ploum The problem with their "notability" standard is that it wants broad geographic coverage. This means that someone who was absolutely outstanding in a region, but who eschewed doing all the crap you need to do for "fame" can't get on Wikipedia.

I'm trying to do a page on Neal Gladstone, and they're hammering me with "notability." You can't listen to "Sleep Neat" and not think it's notable! https://youtu.be/e02w8FevlfI?si=DMJkCY-PKHAb-Fqd

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@Jan_Steinman @dalias @ploum They want reliable sources. For that topic, all I can find is his own website, some places selling his music, and an obit. His YouTube channel has 41 subscribers. What could you write about him that's based on third-party sources?

@StephanSchulz @dalias @ploum

I got hold of his scrapbook. There's actual physical newspaper articles about him. I like using them for references, as no one is going to click on them and argue with me. :-)