JimmyBigSausageIn honor of Joe Biden and his prime time speech Monday instead of Thursday.
empireOfLove2He’s putting the right ambitions as a priority, and at his current age, I don’t blame him.
RhaedasJon Stewart showed video of this beach scene after showing Trump's claims that Biden is going to come back and take over. "He's not coming back, Donald! Get over it!"
Yup, exactly how I know of it…
KillingAndKindessIdk what kind of state my mental health would be in this election season if he’d not come back… he is a international treasure
samus12345Donald could have done this same thing if he’d stayed the fuck out of politics. Biggest self-own ever.
tvguide.com/…/donald-trump-presidential-campaign-…
Also, I love that the first answer I got to the question 'How many times has Trump run for President?" came from TV Guide,
Well, he is just an actor after all
Slightly off topic.
I have seen exactly one Ronald Reagan movie; The Killers with Lee Marvin and John Cassavetes.
Reagan has a pretty small part, and is outshone by pretty much every other actor, including the guy who was an ape General in Planet Of The Apes and the horny landlord from Three’s Comapny
American Cincinnatus!
Thanks for your comment. I looked up the story of Cincinnatus and was not disappointed!
Attaboy Joe
OrbituaryHe would have stuck it out stubbornly had he not been pressured. No cookies for Biden.
So you’re saying that a politician listened to members of his party and the voters, sidelining his own ambitions. And you have a problem with that?
It’s not just a matter of if, but also when.
Biden waited until damn near the last possible minute, and probably wouldn’t have stepped down if it wasn’t for the Trump shooting.
I dunno - the timing was right after the RNC and Vance being locked in. Vance didn’t broaden the ticket appeal because they thought Trump had the election in the bag. The timing might not have been strategic but it worked out pretty damn well!
The timing was clearly strategic. He didn’t want to do it, but there’s a reason why Kamala’s campaign literally started calling Democratic representatives within hours.
MegaUltraChickenWaiting until the last second absolutely fucked the GOP though. They were only prepared to run against Biden and now they don’t have the time needed to spin up an effective campaign against Harris.
I don’t know if the timing was strategic or just a tough decision, both seem possible. But the end result is that we’re now in a better position to stop Trump in November.
It was not strategic. It was hubris and bad advice bordering on elderly abuse. I have no doubt Jill Biden was a big part of the choice to stick it out, based on some of the insider leaks on this topic.
Jo MiranI have no doubt that he was presented the near certain possibility of being humiliated (some more) and handing over the remains of American democracy to a group of literal Nazis, just to safeguard his own ego.
I would have voted for his administration no matter what (I was relatively pleased with it), but I have no fantasies about who Joe is and why he really stepped down. Once Obama started campaigning for him stepping down, it was all over.
The thing is the nomination was his and there was nothing anyone could do about it. He could have stayed in the race. An argument can be made that it looks worse to step down halfway through the campaign instead of fighting till the end. An egocentric guy like Trump would never have stepped down. He would try to turn the base against the RNC and set the party on fire before giving up. That’s the contrast being shown here.
You type this and get up voted. I say the same thing more succinctly and get hammered.
I would have voted for him, but my vote double doesn’t count. I’m in a hard Blue state, Washington. You could support genocide and Washington would still vote Dem. Oh… Wait.
CadenzaWait, in the US, it’s not common to hate all your politicians? Coming from France, that’s like… a second nature
Only a few are respected, but for the most part I personally hate them all. Bernie Sanders is one with integrity. So is Jimmy Carter.
Let the man have cookies! We are all not as self-aware as Orbituary :-/
Sounds like gaslighting to me. He was very reluctant.
Everybody in his shoes would at least be at least reluctant. Specially in Biden’s case who is known to overthink big decisions. What matters is that he made the right decision in the end.
What matters is that he made the right decision in the end.
“I may have been [late], but I’m not wrong”
btw I’m kidding, I’m on the fence about how to feel - you make a good point
TrickDacyPerfect and good? Sworn enemies I always say
Oh dear… I don’t like the implications that Trump is perfect…
;-)
Trump? Wtf.
Perfect in this case obviously was if Biden dropped out at the exact right moment, good being he dropped out in time for a recovery which he did
I just meant, since Trump isn’t good, does that imply he’s perfect?
Worrying, that…
Do you not understand sarcasm? That is a saying that I was repurposing for sarcasm. “Don’t make perfect the enemy of good”
Oh no, I had no idea of sarcasm! Is that a thing people do on the internet?! It was completely invisible to me in your comment, and mine certainly would never contain a shred of complimentary sarcasm.
/s
;-)
Okay, just to clear things up. I don’t think Trump is perfect, not at all, I was just playing with words in ‘logical’ sequence from your comment.
What’s the gaslight? What purpose would it serve to manipulate the populace into believing the narrative that he had good “feefees”?
You’re just spewing your favourite little reddit word. You’d get a gold star if you use it right! Too bad you’re too much of a froggie to do that. Sad. Womp.
inb4_FoundTheVeganSo PBS Frontline has this new documentary that I watched a few weeks ago, “Biden’s Decision”. As a leftist that voted against Trump, not FOR Biden I figured I could probably learn more.
But it was honestly shocking to me that the entire crux of the piece was “Get back up” and “Determination” for all the times Biden ran for president, he himself never really gave a good reason why. Biden decided he wanted to be president, and therefore he spent his whole life either running for president, not because he felt he was the most qualified or best for the country. But because he wanted to. Biden wanted to be the one in charge, but historically, he never had a base who wanted him? Dude only got to the White House when Obama balanced his ticket and then again when his best qualifcation was “Literally Not Trump”.
So while I am glad he dropped out, and somewhat happy for Biden for achieving a life goal, I guess? Still don’t see a compelling reason to be enthusiastic for the man, but eye opening that no one has ever been very enthaustic for him. Biden stepping down was the right thing to do, just not the thing he wanted to do. Not really sure that is deserving of praise. Humility isn’t exactly a noble virtue it’s the standard expectation of decent folk. At least it should be, not this running for the sake of running.
Biden's Decision (full documentary) | FRONTLINE
Gen-X here, and likely to be downvoted to hell in this thread, but I remember Biden from the 90’s. He was…not a good guy. He had what you might call MAGA energy back then. Constantly fear mongering about crime. Yes, both he and Clinton recently admitted that the “tough on crime” thing was a mistake, but that doesn’t really help the situation we find ourselves in now where a significant portion of the population is incarcerated and facing near impossible odds if they ever get out. Their families and society as a whole have paid the price for a few men’s political ambitions.
So, yeah, old man Joe ended up being a fairly decent president (after getting old as fuck, having one son die and the other become a total.loser piece of shit), but he was never “good guy Joe”.
He had what you might call MAGA energy back then. Constantly fear mongering about crime.
Here, I’ll take some of your downvotes - if being “tough on crime” gives you MAGA energy (and I agree, it does), then what energy does that mean ex-prosecutor, “top cop” Harris has?
The answer is, it doesn’t matter, she is a liberal icon - a Black girl boss (so that’s racism and sexism solved! /s), a democrat (making her the antifasciest of antifascists, don’t you know), and maintainer of the status quo (all libs really care about, they find comfort in the system and want it to continue as it is).
Sure, She’s-Not-Trump™, but that doesn’t make her (or anyone the right leaning democratic party would put up) actually good for you, it just means that those in charge get one of their own in, whoever wins.
And that is the point of the two party system. Shame people are so desperate for a feeling of belonging and community (a feature, not a bug) that they substitute that with uncritical support of team red or team blue, when in reality they should be for “team citizen”, which neither party is.
… I remember Biden from the 90’s. He was…not a good guy. He had what you might call MAGA energy back then. …
that’s the biden i know and i wish i could see him like op does; but it’s clear biden hasn’t changed his his ways when you take into account all of the lip service he’s paid for things like green energy and progressive justice while simultaneously permitting drilling to the highest levels ever in recorded history; using the inflation act to create tariffs to block truly affordable green energy products; and giving nearly unfettered access to weaponry to bomb a defenseless group of people into non-existence.
he’s done this before in the 90’s when he said that gays deserve compassion and then supported dont ask dont tell and voted for doma. then suggested that young people need help and then created the student loan law of 2005 that is currently fucking a lot of us over and for life.
He was against integration. He was a key player in giving us Thomas. He didn’t pull out and allow the democrats to have an actual primary. And so on. I’m glad he dropped out. I think his administration did an OK job, albeit completely failing in dealing with the fascism threat (no, I don’t know what they could have done. That’s not my job.).
pRiMaRy
Don’t let Republican nazi chodes control your mind. These chode fucks are the ones that “looove the Constitution”, yet also seem to complain a lot when things aren’t even related to the Constitution. The parties have a right to nominate whoever they wish. It’s not a rule, it’s not a right, to nominate your Presidential candidate.
So stop carrying water for nazis, okay? Fucking republican chode sucker
Sorry bud. I was on that train way before the fucking fascists tried to glom onto it.
The parties have a right to nominate whoever they wish.
Yeah, that right there is part of the fucking problem, ya shit sniffing weirdo. Love when we go almost directly to strange name-calling.
I disagree that humility is a standard. Yes, it should be, but sadly it is a virtue that isn’t found in too many people nowadays. Most people don’t really think critically enough about themselves to truly be humble imo.
It actually does sound like you agree with me? If we can both say that it’s not found in enough people and that’s dissapointing then it is a standard we hold just one not enough meet. Humility isn’t common, but since it is such a low bar of understanding yourself it doesn’t deserve praise.
Yeah, if you put it like that then I agree. I just understood “standard” in your previous comment as “what most people are like”. Which I guess we wouldn’t call “standard”, we’d call it “normal” instead. 🤔
Thanks, Brandon.
Love how we went from “if you’re calling Biden to drop out you’re a russian agent” to “he’s so great for dropping out since it’s the obviously correct choice”.
KazuyaDarklightYou were a Russian agent for implying that you wouldn’t still vote Dem in the event that he didn’t quit. Also the enthusiasm over Kamala and now Walz as well is great but absolutely unprecedented. While people certainly believed we could and would figure things out if Biden stepped down promptly, I don’t think anyone honestly believed things would come together anywhere near “this” well.
Well, I still haven’t been personally thanked for saving democracy after saying Biden’s brain is mostly 2-week old potato salad at this point
Your prestigious award is on the mail.
Is it a t-shirt that says “I personally saved democracy and all I got was this lame t-shirt”
And a tub of 2-week old potato salad.
Did I say 2-week old potato salad? I meant to say his head is full of a delicious eggplant lasagna, heavy on the capers
Well. It was one week old when it went into the mail
That’s because you’re wrong, and are a Republican NPC for saying it. Russian little froggie. I’m sure you’re just as adamant about Trump’s lack of fitness, surely. And about like 2/3 pf the Republican caucus, frankly. If you can make the stretch argument that Biden isn’t mentally sound, I can make the solid argument that every Republican voter is inhuman and should be tortured to death
“Oh but they’re worse”
Yeah. They are. Why the double standard?
You’re just out here making things up. Biden isn’t incapacitated. Trump has literally never been capable. Double standards only really apply when both choices have an attempt at being at the same level. So many inhuman Americans just equate the two, and you get inhumans like you saying “huuuurrr biden is obviously retard” when Trump does not actually know the laws in your country. Its beyond asinine, and clearly in bad faith.
Oh shoot I didn’t know it was in bad faith to point out the emperor’s clothes have had a steep cognitive decline. Oh well, next time he runs I won’t mention it. He should be fine to run again, right?
That’s hilarious because I’m quite sure the Republican platform is “Trump 2028”, and even Biden dropping out has supposed leftists saying its a couuuup. You’d complain about anything. Why don’t you go scream about buttery males.
Yeah, Republicans are dumbasses. Why is it the default option in your brain that someone who doesn’t share your opinion on the kind old segregationist that they must be a republican?
Your opinion is in bad faith and does not reflect reality. Therefore, you may as well be Republican, especially since you have an identical opinion as the Republican party platform.