RimuLemmy devs are considering making all votes public - have your say
originaluciferit should be a setting per instance to hide/show all, some or none
dsilverzOr even per community, or even per user, the latter in a similar fashion from how that video platform works, showing some of the people who liked your video, but hides these who set their likes to be hidden, bc you can set whether to publicize your “Liked videos” or not.
Dr. WeskerI support this.
SatansMaggotyCumFartDo you think it’s a reaction to Twitter (X) making likes private?
I wonder if they’re aware, actually. From the linked issue:
Also noteworthy is that reddit and lemmy are unique in keeping vote privacy: mastodon, twitter, and most other platforms expose them.
What voting system on Twitter is he talking about?
Socialist Mormon SatanistI say yes!!
I have a particular set of people that actually follow me from community to community, just to downvote what I say and the articles I post. All because I posted an article about the Green Party to the c/politics sub. lol
So if you are determined enough to do that, then ya shouldn’t be upset that people can see what you’re doing.
queermunist she/herYeah, but then what?
So you have confirmed that you have a fan club that likes to downvote you. What would you even do with this info?
ChozoOnce you know the accounts doing it, you can block them so they can't interact with your posts anymore.
I’m pretty sure that’s not how it works on Lemmy. For some reason “block” here is really what “mute” is everywhere else on fedi.
I’ve seen a few “There’s no record of this comment” and when I open up the thread in a private tab, it’s someone I’ve bumped heads with but don’t remember/care if I blocked them or they blocked me. I always wondered if it goes both ways, which it should, imo.
Yeah, that was what I thought to. It’s just mute. Which is nice for the quiet, but I’d be great if the block would make them unable to downvote you and your posts as well. And it’d be nice if it wouldn’t even let them reply to your posts. Because muting doesn’t stop the poison the spread, just my personal ability to not see it.
I’d be great if the block would make them unable to downvote you and your posts as well. And it’d be nice if it wouldn’t even let them reply to your posts.
I’m not entirely sure that’s going to work out the way people think it will.
Suppose I’m some jackass that gets off on harassing you: if blocks prevented me from interacting with your content, and you blocked me, I would have confirmation that I’ve successfully gotten under your skin. I can then just make another account and continue what I’m doing.
If blocks don’t notify or provide indication to the blocked party, they would either escalate their behavior (while you are blissfully unaware) and get banned by a moderator, or give up and move on to someone else.
There’s also considering how that’s going to work with moderators and admins: do they get to bypass the block and continue to comment and interact with you against your wishes? Does it hide your posts from them if they’re blocked? It’s a lot harder to design this type of blocking on a community-centric platform than it is to do for a microblogging platform like Twitter or Tumblr.
Because muting doesn’t stop the poison the spread, just my personal ability to not see it.
That’s what mods and admins are supposed to do. It’s not the users’ responsibility to moderate the behavior of others, and it’s a lot less stressful than trying to stop toxicity when you only have words in your moderator toolbox.
Fair points!
I’m not sure which two trolls decided to downvote your comment saying “fair points,” but here’s an upvote for being a good sport about listening to me explain why your preferred implementation of blocking might not be more effective than what we have now.
Ahh, thanks. Truth be told, comments like yours (as in well thought out and logical) are why I love Lemmy so much.
I have a little downvote team following me around. Many in this thread have denied that, but meh, I can see when they are at work. So don’t think that it had anything to do with your post, it was just my name that makes them rage out a lil bit.
To your points tho, I do think they are great, and I def wasn’t seeing that side of things until I read your post. So great work!
If there was a team of downvoters following him around, then the number of downvotes he receives would be more consistent across his content, with older things having more and newer things having fewer.
Instead what we see is wildly varying downvote totals, seeming to depend on the specific thing he says. People disagreeing with his statements would not fuel his victimhood mentality though.
Personally I do check his account once a day to keep tabs on him. I don’t generally downvote though, I prefer to fact check his statements.
Wait, does that mean that they can’t downvote the articles I post, or just that I personally wouldn’t see them?
The user above is wrong. Blocking is only one-directional and you won’t see comments and posts from them any longer, but they still see the things you posts.
Ahhh, ok. That’s what I thought, but I was kinda hoping for a different answer. Thank you!
I’m under the impression that they can still downvote but you won’t be able to see it.
Yeah, that’s the impression I’m under. But if I’m wrong, then that would be awesome!
Well I’d call them out on it and ask why they feel the need to do that.
Maybe, just maybe, if they know people could see how obsessive they are, it would take the fun out of the stalking.
I mean, at the end of the day, I don’t care THAT much one way or the other. I just think it would be funny to give them a shoutout and welcome them to another round of downvoting.
I posted an article about a ninety-year-old woman being the oldest person to graduate from Illinois University. 9 downvotes within one minute of posting it. lmao
Right now they are laughing and rubbing their hands together when I post something, just so they can downvote it. Which is funny and sad. Like am I really that important?! lol
So public or not public, I don’t care, but we can vote for, I’d say yes.
But I won’t cry if Lemmy doesn’t make the votes public. And I doubt there will be many Lemmy users that want their votes public, so I don’t think it’s gonna happen.
You don’t, you just pretend that you do.
Hey, wow! What a coincidence. Funny that you would show up at the EXACT time I am talking about people following me. Crazy coincidence, don’t ya think?
It’d be super fun to see who it is following me and downvoting me, right? I mean, not that YOU’D ever do that, right? All because I posted a Green Party article to a politics sub. You suuuurrreee wouldn’t be the type of person to do that, I bet! Right?
Here you are throwing baseless accusations my way again.
You have proof about those, right?
I didn’t say you did it. In fact, I said you never would do that. I mean, you wouldn’t be the kind of person to do that, right?
You’ve posted a comment or post roughly every thirteen minutes for the last ten days.
You also accuse me of crazy things then hide behind ‘I actually didn’t say it about you’ because you have no proof.
I haven’t accused you of anything. And what does the amount I post have anything to do with this thread?
Other than, well the people who follow me around, def have a lot of work cut out for them. I mean, fingers must get sore with that downvote button.
But hey man, showing up in a thread at the exact same time I am talking about someone stalking me, and then throwing up screen shots of the number of posts I make doesn’t make you look guilty at all.
Nope. No way could we be talking about you, friend.
I sort by new.
It isn’t a conspiracy.
Of course not!
@UniversalMonk @SatansMaggotyCumFart I don’t know you, I’ve never seen you before, and I’ll likely never see you again, so feel free to skip reading this, but I’m absolutely not surprised that your posts get downvotes if this is indicative of your average comment. Accusatory, sarcastic, and grating are not the adjectives that I associate with positive energy. I don’t think public voting is going to solve the issue you described.
But it would make things more fun!
I may have proof soon. But you have nothing to worry about, right?
Why are you throwing these insane accusations around if you have no proof?
Hey, keeping posting screen shots of your interactions with me, when I haven’t mentioned your name at all, sure doesn’t make it look like you are stalking me. For sure it doesn’t. Don’t worry man, it’s all good.
You don’t look guilty at all. Relax.
Then you have nothing to worry about.
Oh, I’m not worried at all.
I hope we can make the votes public. :)
Me too, then you can see that no one’s following you.
Oh someone is following me. And I know who it is. And I think this thread might just have an idea of who it is too.
Because I’ve responded to two of your comments today on a public forum?
Out of the hundred you’ve made?
Like I said, I’m sure you have nothing to worry about. :)
Hey how many screenshots have you taken of my post count today? Just wondering.
Three but you know that so why are you asking?
Three but you know that so why are you asking?
Because I wanted everyone else to know. :)
My post history is public and I don’t mind anyone seeing it.
I don’t think this is the gotcha you’re looking for.
Sure, but I’m sure no one is interested enough in you to go see your post history, so I wanted to save them the time.
Very polite of you.
And just so we can keep it polite, I’ve finally blocked you. :)
If you block everyone you disagree with you’re going to have a very lonely experience here.
SatansMaggotyCumFart is one username I immediately identify because I see their comments so often. Are you sure?
Well in this thread, just now, he just posted yet another screen shot of how many posts I make. Which he has already done about me today. In different communities, so…
𝓔𝓶𝓶𝓲𝓮Them I want my haters too. Where are you people
Wow I want my obsessed about me haters too. Where are you people
Go post an article about the Green Party into the c/politics sub. Not only will you get plenty of people following you to downvote, but you’ll get called a “russian troll farm employee” every single day. So double win!!
Which politics comm
c/politics. Great mods. But the majority of users there really really hate the Green Party. lmao
What server though
Oh, Lemmy.world
Ah thanks had it blocked
You had some point, this looks like it will be absolutely deranged experience