A lot of people are unclear why so many #PatreonCreators are quite so upset at the recent news about #Patreon. This is largely because what is being reported in the news is the business with the 30% Apple tax, which only affects iOS users.

The thing creators are upset about is that Patreon is SHUTTING DOWN two of its three offerings. Creators who were using one of those two are now screwed. How screwed they are depends on how and why they were using the services being discontinued, and ranges from "extremely inconvenienced" right on up to "existential threat to their creative endeavor".

One of the services Patreon offered – the one I use – basically has no alternative. None of the other crowdfunding platforms support it.

Indeed, a lot of creators were stuck using Patreon *because* it did things differently from other crowdfunding platforms, and it is BECAUSE it did things differently, that Apple is requiring them to give up those services.

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Apple only supports the common subscription model that is widespread among payment processors and crowdfunding platforms. They do not want to have to support the innovative things that Patreon was doing, so they told Patreon that to be compatible with Apple, it could only offer the same thing all the other platforms offered.

At least on the iOS app.

To be absolutely crystal clear: Patreon presumably could have complied by, instead, simply making it such that users of the iOS app cannot access or subscribe to or manage their subscriptions to creators that used non-compatible services, and allowed the creators to go on using them.

But instead, it paved its own orchard to give Apple a place to park.

This is not a surprise, in that at least one of the two offerings it is canceling is something those of us who use it have long suspected Patreon was just itching to get rid of.

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I assure you, at this point no creator who uses Patreon to earn any substantial part of their income for any length of time is using it because they *like* it. We all learn to hate Patreon in due course.

No, if a serious creator is using Patreon at this point it is usually because none of the abundant supposed "alternatives" actually support their use case or are otherwise usable for them.

Maybe it's because Patreon is the only place to buy what they need. Maybe it's because it's the only one that is sufficiently handicapped accessible. Maybe it's because it's so integrated into their workflow, the switching costs are extreme. Maybe it's for some other reason I don't even know about.

But it's not because they're thinking, "This is great! The software is so stable and there's so rarely any problem with charging my patrons and everything works really well and there's never any sudden drama upsetting my ability to earn a living here! Why would I ever want to leave?" Promise.

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@siderea This is great but what was the use case they cancelled? I'm missing that part of the story.

@ChuckMcManis Patreon had three "billing models" (better termed funding models):

• "subscription billing" – patrons are charged on the day they sign up, and that day of the month each month thereafter.

• "first of the month" – patrons are charged on the 1st of the month, regardless of when they signed up.

• "per creation" also called "by work" – patrons are charged *at* the beginning of the month *for* each work that was released during the previous month (or since they signed up that month).

These latter two were the original two offerings Patreon had, and they are what Patreon is canceling.

@siderea @ChuckMcManis "These latter two were the original two offerings Patreon had, and they are what Patreon is canceling."

Wait, WHAT!?

FFS Patreon, are you actively trying to tank your entire business AGAIN!?

Ugh, rolling 'subscription billing' is godsawful bullshit and if they turn that into the only way to Patreon then I guess I'm finally out of the place entirely. 🤬

@JDzed @siderea @ChuckMcManis
This is due to an Apple decision, though I think it’s weird that they’re making it impossible to do even without iOS subscriptions.

I have no idea what proportion of my subscribers got there through iOS, but I bet it’s not the 30% that Apple will cost us all.

@JDzed @siderea @ChuckMcManis
“Apple has made it clear that if creators continue to use unsupported billing models, we will be at risk of having the entire app removed from their App Store.”