@Dingsextrem

> First, the picture. It is a version of a common antisemitic trope (compare pic below)

No, it isn't. It's a caricature of the Gentile banker JP Morgan, from a 110-year-old editorial cartoon about the first billion-dollar bank merger.

Just because antisemites depict *Jews* as dominating the world, that doesn't make *all* images of *all* forces - abstract or personified - that dominate the world antisemitic.

@Dingsextrem

> Second, the distinction in "productive" vs. "grubbing" capital is a continuation of "the money-lending jew" trope dating back for centuries.

No, it is not. This is you restating the idea that "critiques of finance capital are structurally antisemitic."

@Dingsextrem

> Marx didn't differ in 'good' or 'evil' capitalists,

This is literally the most wrong thing I have ever seen anyone write about Marx.

The *first chapter* of the Communist Manifesto distinguishes between finance capital and productive capital. This is also critical to Kapital I, and it's the heart of the Grundrisse.

@Dingsextrem

Mate, I was raised by Jewish Marxists who were also survivors, WWII refugees who received reparations checks all their lives.

I speak Yiddish, and I had both a bris and a Bar Mitzvah.

I promise you: I understand the consequences of the Holocaust, the nature of Judiasm, the Jewish critique of capitalism, and the nature of antisemitism.

The crude equivalences of "all caricatures of bankers" or "all critiques of finance capital" with "antisemitism" are factually *wrong*.

@Dingsextrem

Sure, Nazis depicted Jewish bankers as a force for evil - but the salient aspect of those images that made them antisemitic was that the bankers were coded as Jewish.

If you understood Jewish radicalism, you'd know that at the *very same time*, Jewish radical newspapers (e.g. The Forward) were running editorial cartoons that *also* depicted bankers as dominating the world - just not coded as Jewish.