BentiGorlichSpreading of the 100 biggest Lemmy communities
Spreading of the 100 biggest Lemmy communities
FeelzGoodMan4202 observations:
Wow I didn’t think hexbear was that large. That’s unfortunate…
The fact that Lemmyworld is like 40% of the pie is NOT good. People are clearly not understanding or not caring thay the point of the fediverse is to prevent any one instance from having too much power. People need to leave lemmy world and join other smaller instances. If lemmy world were to shut down, imagine how many of the most popular communities would be gone.
Blaze (he/him)Definitely
blackn1ghtThe problem is most likely people that are new to the fediverse/lemmy just not understanding it and choosing a “default”, popular instance. I was going to pick it as a safe option when I first came here but it was under load and wasn’t accepting new users, where I then had to find another instance and settled on feddit.uk.
It would be good if lemmy instances could have the option of “load balancing” new users, so if the current instance has way more active users than it’s federated wtih then it disables registration but recommends other, smaller instances to the user.
We just need a way to make it easy to seamlessly transfer both users and communities to another instance then it really won’t matter if one gets disproportionately large because a shutdown won’t affect anything
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♥️ glad to be part of our community!
I mean the first problem went away when I sorted the communities by active users, though the second one got way worse with it XD
As someone out of the loop, why is hexbear bad? Alternatively, what is hexbear about?
Please disregard, after reading further in the comments I get the gist. I guess as I use LemmyWorld I don’t have to deal with them.
ericjmorey
Spreading of the 100 biggest Lemmy communities - Star Trek∶Website
[https://gehirneimer.de/media/cache/resolve/entry_thumb/3f/93/3f93a1af4263b9bf619fdb8678fd0ab2e3df765c83e302fcacc479fb5fe11907.png] The biggest surprise for me was the https://hexbear.net [https://hexbear.net] count, an instance I hardly interact with. | | beehaw.org [http://beehaw.org] | hexbear.net [http://hexbear.net] | lemdro.id [http://lemdro.id] | lemmy.blahaj.zone | lemmy.dbzer0.com [http://lemmy.dbzer0.com] | lemmy.ml [http://lemmy.ml] | lemmy.one | lemmy.world | lemmynsfw.com [http://lemmynsfw.com] | sh.itjust.works | sopuli.xyz | | -------------------------- | ---------- | ----------- | --------- | ----------------- | ---------------- | -------- | --------- | ----------- | ------------- | --------------- | ---------- | | Community Count | 6 | 33 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 14 | 1 | 39 | 2 | 1 | 1 | | Community Subscriber Count | 133450 | 663204 | 17052 | 15907 | 53006 | 356460 | 16257 | 851950 | 33586 | 16006 | 14093 | The data this is based on comes from https://lemmyverse.net [https://lemmyverse.net] where you can just download a full json of the data they have (I excluded all communities marked as “suspicious”) EDIT: The data if you sort by active users last month: | | awful.systems | feddit.org [http://feddit.org] | feddit.uk [http://feddit.uk] | hexbear.net [http://hexbear.net] | lemdro.id [http://lemdro.id] | lemm.ee [http://lemm.ee] | lemmy.blahaj.zone | lemmy.ca [http://lemmy.ca] | lemmy.dbzer0.com [http://lemmy.dbzer0.com] | lemmy.ml [http://lemmy.ml] | lemmy.world | lemmy.wtf | lemmy.zip | mander.xyz | sh.itjust.works | slrpnk.net [http://slrpnk.net] | sopuli.xyz | ttrpg.network | | ---------------------------- | ------------- | ---------- | --------- | ----------- | --------- | ------- | ----------------- | -------- | ---------------- | -------- | ----------- | --------- | --------- | ---------- | --------------- | ---------- | ---------- | ------------- | | Community Count | 1 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 10 | 57 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 1 | | Community Active Month Count | 2616 | 7363 | 5289 | 2952 | 2898 | 8898 | 11422 | 14910 | 13752 | 54949 | 338384 | 3602 | 12020 | 11469 | 37365 | 10897 | 10070 | 4107 | Community Count: [https://media.gehirneimer.de/21/cd/21cdd1045eb39e2ce9ab01a4b3f70d7dfed9f930a3a40016a62cfe43cad4a991.png] Community Users: [https://media.gehirneimer.de/3c/bb/3cbb159daffa604ec792892381cb0ad6bb41822b9f8fa3f5a113ea5bb96c36be.png]
They’re an explicitly leftist comm, and a lot of .world’ers take offense to being called out on stuff. That’s all really.
They openly state that their primarily goals in federation is to be obnoxious trolls, and boy howdy do they put a lot of energy into it. They are first and foremost, just obnoxious. It’s like 20% teenagers going through their edgy anti establishment phase, and then the rest are right wing, Russian, and Chinese trolls playing soggy waffle with each other. They pretend to be super serious about LGBT issues but then simply for Hamas and Russia. And ond of their tankie leaders just got caught calling trans issues “western pink washing.”
It’s just a mess. It’s probably a bit overblown, but the community is legitimately annoying if nothing else.
one of their tankie leaders just got caught calling trans issues “western pink washing.”
This didn’t happen. Pics or you’re talking shit.
Thats a .ml admin that’s banned from hexbear
see the link to “kristinas post” for zhe hexbear take on the situation (nutomic is banned from hexbear afaik)
An admin of this instance, Nutomic, is a transphobe and has no right to be able to ban trans people from this community. - Lemmy
I’m calling for https://lemmy.ml/u/[email protected] [/u/[email protected]] [https://lemmy.ml/u/[email protected]], the most prolific user of the transgender comm here on lemmy.ml [http://lemmy.ml], to be immediately unbanned and nutomic to be removed as admin. It is good and correct to leak the DMs of transphobes. @[email protected] [/u/[email protected]] [https://lemmy.ml/u/dessalines] @[email protected] [/u/[email protected]] [https://lemmy.ml/u/JoeBidet] @cypherphunks edit: you can find more info from kristinas post here [https://hexbear.net/post/3129775] and beavers post here [https://lemmy.ca/post/26211900] edit 2: proof, also beaver was banned from the whole instance modlong [https://lemmy.ml/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=9782557] [https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/65be653e-8268-4d6f-a1db-543a41f39375.png] edit 3: For trans people looking for a safer instance, I suggest Hexbear. They have a very active trans user base and are extremely supportive.
(nutomic is banned from hexbear afaik)
Indeed, interesting: hexbear.net/u/[email protected]
They take transphobia very seriously there. There was a whole thing about lemm.ee defederation, they defedded from blahaj because of that etc.
Lemmy.world has no lock in on their “power”. They have the most volunteer labor, money, and infrastructure. That’s makes them stable, so people aren’t worried about their data suddenly going offline (like kbin) and they don’t worry about the service being flaky.
The same can be said about gmail and it is the same kind of problem here. Yes lemmy.world is not a profit orient it giant, but it is still a problem when one actor has this power over a federated network. (the scale of the problem is of course a lot larger with gmail)
That’s just how federation works out in every federated service ever.
RememberTheApollo_I agree in principle that .world containing most of the fediverse’s activity kinda isn’t great for the idea of the democratic nature of the fediverse. However, the point of the ‘verse is that anyone can spool up an instance if they dislike it, or start more communities on existing instances. If .world were to disappear it would suck, but that’s part of the problem with any instance in an informal community. Any of them can disappear.
JackbyDevHow many instances federate by default? It may be difficult to get your new solo instance into the others.
Whole spreading out is good, this isn’t something like cryptocurrency where it’s specifically bad if you have over 50% share. Each instance is the source of truth for their users and communities hosted there. It’s not like a block chain where something with over half can suddenly define their own truth for everyone. So it’s not necessarily a massive cause for alarm.
Ategon.ml and hexbear have been around much longer than the other instances so have built up more subscribers
MonstrosityWhen you enter “how to join Lemmy” in any search engine, one of the first results you get is this Reddit thread, which explicitly suggests people join Lemmyworld.
In fact, when I point people to Lemmy via Reddit, I use that post also because that suggestion actually makes it way more approachable. I think most people, myself included, are intimidated by multiple servers and feel like they’re “intruding” into private spaces. The size of Lemmyworld might help people feel like it’s more anonymous and a little easier to join as a result, especially since they are being asked to wait for “approval”, which is pretty unusual on the modern Net, let’s be honest.
There’s a bit of choice paralasys when joining Lemmy. Even if you know how the fediverse works you won’t have knowledge of the culture and relationships of different instances.
I joined Lemmy.world because it advertises itself as the vanilla flavour of the fediverse, so it makes it an easy pick for someone like me who didn’t quite understand how it all hangs together.
But I do agree with you, and I’m looking to migrate after some concerning things have come up about the lemmy.world owner.
Preflight_TomatoThe choice paralysis is real. I chose lemm.ee because it was easy to type into the address bar, and I’ve stuck around because the admin seems pretty level-headed.
I agree on the choice paralysis. I ended up with Feddit.it because my native language is Italian and that’s the biggest instance in my language.
But I do agree with you, and I’m looking to migrate after some concerning things have come up about the lemmy.world owner.
Lemm.ee should fit your bill
Haven’t heard anything so far, what are they?
Thanks for asking, made me go look again. I had mixed up Lemmy.world owner Ruud and the creator of Lemmy itself and admin of lemmy.ml. Ruud seems chill, lemmy.ml less so.
Thank you for editing your original comment to reflect tthat 😎
goosehorseI started on a small instance that fortunately gave a heads up when they decided to shut down. When I moved to a second, small instance where I ported all my community subscriptions, it shut down with no warning. It’s a shame, because both instances were topically-focused and small enough to avoid defederation drama.
I love the idea of decentralized infrastructure, but now I’m on .world because I just don’t have the time or willpower to move every few months, and I definitely don’t have the wherewithal to run my own instance.
Try searching for a local community, especially if English is not your first language.
that’s the main reason I moved away from lemmy.world
irelephant [he/him]🍭Sure, but getting people on a fediverse platform is still good.