nzmaaThis kills the christian
CALIGVLABased.
WIZARD POPEđŤNot defending god here but afaik the 7 deadly sins come from the divine comedy
Drewfro66Yeah, they arenât biblical, basically just Christian fanfiction
They arennât listed in the Bible, but they definetly werenât made up ny Dante
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_deadly_sins#Origin_âŚ
but it is ultimately completely pointless. someone(or rather many someones) made up the OG bible canon and some fanfics are becoming almost canon by being well known.
same difference
Revelation is one of the most quoted judeo-christian texts, and I recently learned that it was written as a fanfic and it took the fandom a surprisingly long time to recognise it as part of the official lore.
đ´đđđMost are derived from Psalms, Proverbs, and other locations in the old testament. It came from Catholicism. The weakest of the seven for a Biblical origin is Sloth, as it is derived from a failure to act in line with scripture. The list itself is not of canonical origin but is instead a collection of thoughts in a simplification that is easier to digest and remember.
There is some value in the scripture when it comes to philosophy, however small that may be. It is a great example of what humans were able to directly observe in their time, the ways humans were manipulated with their vulnerabilities, how politics and religion were the same thing in past eras, and many other minor intrigues. Still, 99% of life that has ever existed has gone extinct, and there is not a single reference in scripture that reflects ontological knowledge of the universe. Every bit of every religious work around the world can be explained by human observations and meddling. If a God exists, the least they could have done is prove their existence by giving any of the cosmological constants that are the fundamental building blocks of the universe, or act like a sane person and give me a call any time - my phone is on. Faith is a synonym for fantasy, and primarily persists because of religious isolationist social networking, and teaching faith to gullible children before they have a choice in their social networking development path.
Mark 7:20-23 (NLT) 20 And then he added, âIt is what comes from inside that defiles you. 21 For from within, out of a personâs heart, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, 22 adultery, greed, wickedness, deceit, lustful desires, envy, slander, pride, and foolishness. 23 All these vile things come from within; they are what defile you.â
Proverbs 6:16 - 19 (KJV)
These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood
An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief
A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren
Rules for thee but not for me
âDo as I say, not as I doâ
MeDuViNoXIâm not saying itâs real, but if it was, can you really make a case for all 9 billion people (or however many there are now) to all have the same powers as a God?
Almost like God isnât real and was made up by humans to control people.
You donât say?
MeowZedongWhat if He was just a meme that got out of control?
If we look at the original definition of âmemesâ and assume he isnât actually real, then he literally was a meme.
What if God was one of us?
JackbyDevJust a memer on a bus
UltraGiGaGiganticGod must answer for his crimes, and he now has a physical address.
what??
Where did you hear that?
Iâm sure it wasnât made to control people, I think it was made to explain stuff they didnât understand and became a tool of control later
Gradually_AdjustingThe gluttony one needs work tbh. Bit of a gish gallop there needing reinforcement.
donOccasionally, anon discovers a human invention.
yeah well, all this just means god claims a monopoly on sins.
like your state claims a monopoly on violence, etc.
the_post_of_tom_joad [any, any]Yeah itâs a just a lesson see?
Showing us how just how deadly
those sins can be so we mustâŚ
What he says not what he does
sung to the tune of âhark! the herald angels singâ
If He was up there chillin, letting this happen
Doin nothin, Heâd be in need of a slappin
-Insane Clown Posse, Whereâs God?
God created hell so we can one day drag his psychotic ass in.
For sloth, the dude worked for one week and didnât do squat after that.
To be fair though, according to the book he did like everything during that one week.
Burnout is real folks
I think we should have magic, he stopped working too soon.
Six days*
samus12345Pride, wrath, envy, and sloth are correct. The others are a bit of a stretch.
If you read the old testament in particular, god never denies the existence of other gods, only that heâs the best one. Yahweh was actually just one god in an ancient pre Jewish pantheon. He was like Dionysus, a god of harvest and wine and rebirth. Different tribes had different chief gods, but all accepted the existence of the others. Just happened over time that the people who worshipped Yahweh were the only ones left and it became a monotheistic religion.
Iâm sure back in the day, those gods were more similar to Greek gods, flawed and monstrous, and entities to fear. Thatâs why the old testament god is such a psychopath.
Do we know what/who the other gods were?
At the head of this pantheon was Yahweh, held in an especially high regard as the two Israelite kingdomsâ national god.[3] Some scholars hold that the goddess Asherah was worshipped as Yahwehâs consort,[3] though other scholars disagree.[4] Following this duo were second-tier gods and goddesses, such as Baal, Shamash, Yarikh, Mot, and Astarte
Some appear in the bible or are mentioned. Baal I know was one. And was later turned into a satan thing by medieval Christians. Ashira as well gets mentioned in the Bible in a vague sense, but she was the wife of Yahweh.
They mentions the egypts gods too, donât remember where, I only know because my mom got angry at me when I questioned that part lmao
Though it happened rather soon with Judah.
Its a shame that a lack of hard evidence and a disdain for looking for more from theological groups resisting demystifying their religion means we donât know or have records on a lot of the early days of poly to mono theism.
Considering it looks like the 18th Dynasty of Egypt had a push to move away from Poly in Amun that involved building a new captial with the help of skilled laborers from the North Canaanites only to be be attacked for their position by the older poly religious leaders causing the downfall off the new capital falling and the workers fleeing back across the desertâŚ
I mean there is so much to piece together of how politics and the empires of the time influenced how we as humans and religions developed but then you might ruin the idea of magic with real world incredible stories.
MasterNerdIâve never seen any evidence of him being anything but a war and storm god similar to Baal.
Great video on it for those interested: youtu.be/mdKst8zeh-U
NostraDavidElohim (one of his several names; I like this one, because it betrays his Canaanitic roots) is one of several Canaanitic gods, which makes a lot more sense than him being the only god yet him being jealous of other gods (that donât exist).
As far as I know these sins are only sins for mortals. For example pride is wrong because you worship yourself instead of God. Sloth is wrong because it would be your job to better the world, not Godâs and so on.
Tier 1 Build-A-Bear đ§¸Right, God knows better than you and is above it all you stupid animal, sit the fuck down, shut the fuck up, and blindly follow whatever the newest version of the Bible says, because thatâs what âfaithâ means
Well, it was never implied that God was supposed to be subject to the same commandments. The whole religion is kind of requires holding God above oneâs self and others as well, as are many religions with creator gods. It doesnât really work if God is supposed to equal to us and subject to the same constraints, theyâre supposed by design to be omniscient and omnipotent and perfect and thatâs why weâre supposed to trust in them and all their dictates if we want to âsavedâ.
Itâs not a particularly remarkable insight or cutting blow to point out that God doesnât follow their own rules since everybody knows that including the devout and they think itâs a good thing. Iâd hazard a guess that the ability to accept this so readily probably explains a lot about overlap between strength of religious belief and embrace of dictators who also donât model their own edicts.
And in the same way God is allowed to have double standards and disobey the rules he set for humanity, Christian leadership is held to a lower standard and allowed to get away with things like pedophilia by the members of their church.
It does make sense that God would be allowed to break rules, its kind of like how a parent doesnt have the same rules as their kids. And no on in a church is allowed to be a pedo, if that happens that is seem by very bad by all the people.
Unfortunately some churches have a reputation for covering up the crime and not punishing the perpetrator.
Itâs one thing for the crime to happen; itâs much worse when a bunch of people decide to hide it.
I think what it is are they are friends and their friends promise to never do it again and they dont want to ruin their lives. It is a universal thing and not just a religous thing but we news stories about what is supposed to be a safe place sell more papers.
Uh, it was more of an institutional policy. Thatâs why it was such a scandal.
I am guessing that we are talking about the catholic church, and I could be wrong because I dont know about their rules, but I dont believe they would have rule not severely punishing or sending to police pedos. I would guess they catagorized it as someone who broke a rule, not committed a crime.
Please read up on it. Iâm sure now they do have that policy, butâŚit was an extremely widespread problem, literally all over the world. Any claim that theyâve fixed the problem is going to be met with skepticism for a long time, and rightly so. They worked HARD to hide it.
I do think the Catholic church was right about one thing - it likely happened in other churches as well.
That is a long wiki page, you will need to point to the part you are referring to.
If you want to point to institutions with pedo problem, then you should look at government schools which have much more than churches. But I think this is more about ragging on religious institutions than actually understanding what is happening.
The whole page is the point. You donât seem to be very informed on the situation; you claimed it was just a few friends. I was trying to tell you it was a systemic issue, and the long page is evidence of that.
Iâm guessing youâre religious and trying to avoid facing the fact that religions do bad things, too. Well, guess what? They do.
âRagging on religious institutionsâ lol. Seems like you just want to bury your head in the sand.
Iâve scrolled through your comments and realize now youâre a Trump fan, so I now realize Iâve been wasting my time. Thereâs no point in trying to explain something to Trump fans, you guys are beyond help. And Iâm guessing your âgovernment schoolâ comment is referring to the (insane, untrue) claims that schools indoctrinate kids to be trans or whatever the hell they are claiming today. So, donât bother replying, Iâm just going to add you to my block list, and I wonât see it any way.
Trump fans. Just keep drinking that Flavor-Aid. Still supporting that jackass after all of the stupid shit he has done. The âparty of law and orderâ supporting churches that covered up pedophiles for years. Insane.
And yes, he is racist. If you think otherwise, youâre burying your head in the sand, again.
There are something like 1.4 billion catholics in the world there is going to be all kinds of examples for you to call it a âsystemic issueâ when there is literally no part of the system that encourages this. If you actually cared you would look at schools which have a much higher number of molested kids. And no government schools is about them being government run not some kind of public run thing.
I love how you guys just cant not think about trump for one moment. Rent free.
Yes. Itâs much more than just âfriendsâ backing each other. Many times theyâll still have to face the elders of the church or similar things but it is nearly always handled in the church meaning theyâre kicked out of something possibly until they repent. The police are very often never involved.
Exmo take: there are divine attributes to each sin.
Sloth is to be meek and humble.
It is good to healthfully âlustâ towards your lawfully wed spouce.
Take pride in your work, and family.
Be gluttonous in your education and church studies.
Be envious of Godâs attention by doing good acts.
There is a righteous wrath in terms of self defense and protecting others from wrongdoing.
And greed, well you gotta be wealthy in order to afford giving God a nice juicy tithe. Also gotta be self sufficient.
Thereâs a bunch of mental gymnastics involved but thatâs from when I was a âgood mormon boy.â
tetris11Be envious of Godâs attention by doing good acts.
To be fair, the Greek pantheon would definitely punish mortals for upstaging them, so at least this God got some of his priorities in order
schloppahBible god punished and divided all humanity for trying to build a tower to meet him
And greed, well you gotta be wealthy in order to afford giving God a nice juicy tithe. Also gotta be self sufficient.
According to Luke 16:13 Jesus said âYou cannot serve both God and money.â
Mark 10:21 âGo, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.â
Mark 10:22, the guy had âgreat wealthâ and was unwilling to part with it. Donating that money away would have bought him treasures in heaven (why would someone want treasures in heaven if they had absolutely no source of greed?).
As for the Luke 16:13, Iâd argue that it was saying you cannot worship money, in the sense of hoarding it and having stupid amounts of surplus.
Matthew 25:14-30 Jesus gives a parable praising the men who double their investments and then disparages the guy whos net return was zero. A sloppy Google search says a talent at that time was worth about a 20 years salary, why are the guys earning around 1.5 mil and 600k good?