BrikoXAug 4, 2024

The Best Encrypted Messengers in 2024

https://lemmy.zip/post/20336090

The Best Encrypted Messengers in 2024 - Lemmy.zip

> I am a firm believer that there are many privacy techniques you should focus on before encrypted messaging because they will offer you much more “bang for your buck,” things like good passwords, two-factor authentication, and even encrypted email. That said, I still believe that encrypted messaging is a critical part of a well-rounded privacy and security strategy. While the vast majority of our day-to-day conversations may be benign, it can still offer a lot of insight into who we are as people – our routines, likes, and personal thoughts. This information – mundane or not – is worth protecting.

Show threadkitnahtAug 4, 2024
Another basic thing – If your messenger is throwing your messages in a notification; it’s being logged. Google was found to be logging almost all notification content. Make sure your message app isn’t putting the content of messages into notifications.
Show threadGustavoFring
If the app implements their own notification system and doesn’t rely on GCM then Google isn’t able to log them as far as I know.
Aug 5, 2024 at 1:01amWeb
Show threadkitnahtAug 5, 2024
Sure – but how many of them actually do?
Show threadJustMarkovAug 5, 2024

I can throw a few examples:

  • SimpleX
  • Threema Libre
  • Briar (afaik)
  • Conversations (XMPP client)
  • Catogram (matrix client), probably some others too
  • Telegram FOSS (Telegram fork), Mercurygram (Telegram FOSS fork)
  • Molly (Signal fork)
  • Session F-Droid (Session fork)

So, the answer is — almost every of them.

Show threadBrikoXAug 5, 2024
Element X (Matrix client). Basically anything that offers F-Droid or open source release will have builds without built-in notifications. Play Store/App Store builds requires using native notification systems.
Show threadSHOW_ME_YOUR_ASSHOLEAug 5, 2024
But not Signal? I use Signal but I’m not sure I can get my chat groups to use something else.
Show threadJustMarkovAug 5, 2024
I mentioned Molly — Signal fork. It can show notifications via UnifiedPush or websocket.
Show threadPossibly linuxAug 5, 2024

I just run it in the background. It pulls almost no battery so it is a non issue.

Also getting it to work with Unified push requires extra effort.

Show threadJustMarkovAug 5, 2024
Yeah, configuring a mollysocket requires at least a little self-hosting knowlage.
Show threadchevy9294Aug 6, 2024
I would do the same but it uses too much battery for me so I had to figure out how to self-host ntfy and mollysocket.
Show threadPossibly linuxAug 5, 2024

Signal has a ton of the dependence on proprietary software. You won’t find Signal on F-droid.

Best option is Molly foss

Show threadeatham 🇦🇺Aug 5, 2024
Briar just says x private messages
Show threadxh3yndAug 5, 2024

UnifiedPush instead of their own implantation would be better for power consumption ig.

Overall a choice between which Notifier you want to choose would be nice.

Between the apps own notifier and UnifiedPush (also has a Fallback to GCM if wanted)