NemeskiManjaro Immutable Out Now for Community Testing
gianniImmutables are cool—I’ve been running Silverblue for over half a year now. However, this seems half baked?
Unless I’ve misunderstood, you can no longer use pacman (without losing your changes after the next update).
And arkdep itself is just a shell script without any tests or continuous integration. I would be skeptical of using such a tool to control the integrity of my system.
DarkThoughtsI don't understand the hype of immutables, or usability even. I tried Bazzite today after Nobara nuked itself, and I couldn't even paste my old Firefox profile since the actual folder apparently sits within the immutable folder structure. Maybe that's fine for grandmas who just want to casually browse the internet but this seems extremely counter intuitive and an incredible hassle. I didn't even have time to reach the software limitations with how fast I tried the next distro. Still hopping though, because apparently Fedora just nukes itself when you try to install codecs and I think I have about every major distro tested by now. Linux is cursed.
demesisxSkill issue. I use NixOS btw. You can manage your dot files the immutable way as well if you develop the skills rather than yelling from your horse and buggy at the model T passing you.
Same reply that I wrote to the other entitled asshole: https://fedia.io/m/[email protected]/t/1045299/Manjaro-Immutable-Out-Now-for-Community-Testing/comment/6595387#entry-comment-6595387
So you think immutable distros aren’t the future of Linux? I’ve got some bad news for you: This style of distribution is catching on like wildfire and IMO someday they’ll almost all be structured like this and you’ll actually have to learn how to work with it.
I’m not sure how what I said is entitled. I’m a REALLY mediocre programmer with limited time to learn and I STILL learned Nix and work comfortably with immutable distros.
SKILL ISSUE
If you make your distros even more unintuitive and a hassle than before, then no, it certainly won't be the future. You people need a reality check.
It’s really not unintuitive, honestly. It is just very different than FHS.
You people need a reality check.
“You people”?
If many things go from 1-2 steps to 20+ steps that I also have to read up on, but aren't even documented anywhere which means I also have to be some sort of all knowing mystic (meaning they might as well be not possible to do), then yes, that's very much unintuitive.
Maybe you "forward-thinking generation of software engineers that make elegant, reliable, declarative systems but are totally not entitled shitheads that insult everyone who clearly struggle with such elegancy" should actually listen to the issues that your potential user base is facing instead of dismissing them. Otherwise it will be hard to sell that "future" to them.
Thank you for perfectly playing your role of aging luddite principle Skinner who is stuck in the past and can’t (won’t) adapt to new paradigms.
Thanks for further proving my point and good luck with that attitude.
Good luck keeping up your skills.