makeworldI fucked up my repo so bad
Eli the Bearded@makeworld
That doesn't even show the Islam fork
Mark Whybird@elithebearded @makeworld That’s because this is a zoomed in detail view of one fork of the master repo, from just after Islam forked off from Christianity. Here’s a zoomed out view.
OTOH OP’s diagram could also be zoomed in on to see further details like baptists vs methodists and various merge attempts too. It’s pretty much a fractal that probably goes down to each individual’s beliefs, and even then noting that a single individual might hold multiple contradictory beliefs at once, which also change over time.
(Edit: see below for a more impressive, and probably more accurate (to the degree that’s possible) version)
Martijn Faassen has moved"Nostratic pantheism" sounds cool but makes the warning in this chart about it being speculative rather understated.
The Nostratic language hypothesis is already extremely speculative, let alone anything about the religion practices of those hypothesized speakers.
@faassen @elithebearded @makeworld Your comment made me go looking to see if the chart’s designer had made any updates… and wowsers, look what I found!
Source: https://www.patreon.com/posts/all-religions-in-101663307
Looks cool for sure! I can't find the Nostratic pantheism anymore.
I think any connections before recorded history literally spanning thousands of years are speculative at best. Though potentially cultural continuity can be inferred from material artifacts, that doesn't necessarily mean religious continuity.
Whether it even makes sense to call ancient practices a religion is debatable. It's a pretty modern term with implications that may not work
In Indo European languages there are hints of shared names for divinities reflected in Greek, Roman, Germanic and Hindu pantheons. This is fascinating!
I am not sure whether such shared linguistics roots exist in other languages. Various middle eastern groups have shared mythologies too but they had continuous close cultural contacts, also shown by Greek mythology having things in common with them.
mirabilos@faassen @whybird @elithebearded @makeworld plenty of reconstructionist pagans around, I think religion works for these
SwindlerOfInsanity@whybird @SwindlerOfInsanity @elithebearded @faassen @makeworld but less well structured, unfortunately. The colours at the top are no longer as much in the order as these in the chart, nor recognisable, nor complete (red is missing for example), some entries have been lost and I cannot find the arctic branch at a glance any more…
But yay for information, and the cost is not more than a dinner with the missus, so…
@makeworld @elithebearded @whybird @SwindlerOfInsanity @faassen phew, but almost 20 EUR for shipping!
Anyone in west Germany wants one as well, so we can share shipping cost?
@makeworld @elithebearded @whybird @SwindlerOfInsanity @faassen eh, no, thanks.
I just ran one of his public posts’ plain text through multiple “AI” detectors, and… this is not something I want to support.
@whybird @SwindlerOfInsanity @elithebearded @faassen @makeworld also, did he honestly switch from the neutral BCE/CE to BC/C. in large parts of the newer one? Grr…
Lines are less clear, too. They seem to be able to overlay and hide below other lines, with unclear trajectory in some cases.
Jeremy BornsteinDamn, my Pascal's wager got a lot more complicated.
Ether Diver@faassen @elithebearded @makeworld Since this got a few new boosts, I feel I should link to the designer’s shop, which is mildly hard to find from the patreon post I found the chart on.
https://b1995f-35.myshopify.com/
(I have nothing whatsoever to do with this work or the designer, nor am I knowledgeable on the subject; I just think it is an interesting topic extremely well presented.)
@whybird @faassen @elithebearded @makeworld yeah fuuuuck, the author goes at least somewhat into TESCREAL, what with not only using “AI” slop for imagery, but also:
Mythcraft helps us tell stories where particles, planets, and AGI all have inner life
And (less direct):
Reflections on the rise of AGI, planetary consciousness, and our future myths
These are direct quotes from the Patreon levels offered.
@whybird @faassen @elithebearded @makeworld … and, ugh, the author is now using “AI” slop to make imagery for his videos.