@ddritter

Twitter:
*I make a post at 9am and go about my day
*A racist replies with racial slurs at 9:15am
*Everyone sees the racist replies
*Everyone reports the racist replies
*Twitter mods take it down by 10am
*I check Twitter again at 11am, and never even see the racism!

Masto:
*I post at 9am
*Racists reply in such a way that only me, them and their followers, see the racism
*So no one reports it
*Everyone gaslights me with "I don't see racism here!"

https://hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/111012743709881062

mekka okereke :verified: (@[email protected])

@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] From your screenshot above, and the scenario I listed below, imagine if: 1) the racist user is on "Nazis dot social." They have 5000 followers. 2) the Black user is on "Good people dot social" 3) the nazi replies "Followers only." The scenario: https://hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/111010421955145872 None of the good people would see the gore images, or the subsequent pile-on.

Hachyderm.io

@mekkaokereke do you think mastodon fetching the list of replies automatically of a post would help on this?

@gabboman @mekkaokereke the existence of unlisted, followers only, and specific were originally built due to the benefits of privacy, but open the gates for abuse.... pulling in replies that are limited in scope won't do much in practice (unless the abuse is in public)

I think the better solution would be for abuse targets to be able to reject toots that include their user tag. As in, I don't follow you, or (you're not a friends of my friends).... you cannot @ me until I approve it. (maybe let people tick a box to approve first contact).

The rejection could also be hard.. eg. if it's a reply to a toot.. the owner of the original toot can delete the reply from the collection. (so it only exists on the abusers instance).

but all of this requires major AP changes.

edit: Twitter having everything as public makes it easier to audit. I think is the core point. unlisted/followers only/specific should be a privilege not a right etc.