@smathermather @micah @frameworkcomputer I have an early Framework 13 and a recent (still early-generation) Framework 16 with GPU. Both hi-spec for memory, CPU etc. Run Kubuntu on them.

F13 I think of as MacBook Air equivalent, F16 as MacBook Pro equivalent.

Love the 13. Best-feeling and performing machine I've ever owned. Would not return to Mac voluntarily.

Battery life not as good as a Mac, I can get maybe 9 hours out of the F13 or 6 hours on the F16. Could probably improve with tuning.

@smathermather @micah @frameworkcomputer the F16 isn't as shockingly good as the F13.

The F13 really oozes quality in every way. Physically feels great (lightweight, stiff, good hinges). Kubuntu installs seamlessly, boots fast, runs smooth, rarely crashes, and everything works outta the box. Awesome touchpad (feels BETTER than a Mac to me, which is saying something).

The F16 feels more rickety. Don't get me wrong, I like it and it's my current daily driver, but it's less stunningly great.

@smathermather @micah @frameworkcomputer Of course it's awesome to have a nice GNU/Linux laptop that can handle heavy lifting (such as WebODM; I'm processing a lot of drone imagery on my F16 and it recently met a desktop photogrammetry workstation, kicked sand in its face, and took its lunch money).

But it's absurdly heavy for a laptop, the panels are a little ragged, fans are noisy, and it feels like a bit of a work in progress. I suspect a later model will be The One, but it's not there yet.

@smathermather @micah @frameworkcomputer As for upgradeability, I don't think I can put a price on that. I've replaced a few bits due to breakage (I'm hard on computera) or whim, and I feel entirely confident that I'll be using both of these machines in 5 years (and the F13 is already 3 years old) with various upgrades.