ElCanutSimple, really
Missing the panel where millions of people die from starvation
LukeOh you mean like is currently happening right now without socialism?
AussiemandeusIsn’t happening in well functioning capitalist countries
Because they continue what they have historically done: outsourcing the most extreme poverty and suffering to the countries they exploit for resources.
You do know that hunger and malnutrition in the US impacts millions of people every year, and Cuba has effectively eliminated food insecurity for its entire population, right?
If not, now you do.
Economic crisis in Cuba leads to food rationing, hunger
María de los Ángeles Pozo used to get a little notebook laying out her family’s rations in Cuba’s subsidized neighborhood stores. They’d get everything from hamburgers and fish to chocolate, milk and beer. Cubans universally know it as the “libreta.” Launched in July 1963, the little ration book became one of the pillars of the island’s socialist system. That system has been undergoing a deep economic crisis. Almost half a million Cubans have gone to the U.S. over the last two years, with thousands more heading to Europe. The crisis has led to a dramatic reduction in the availability of rationed food or those who do not leave. And many Cubans’ feelings of being ill-equipped to handle their new, more unequal country has worsened as small private markets have opened.
That’s not data, that’s a newspaper article. Come back with serious sources.
Give us the numbers, my dude.
He literally countered a baseless claim, which would have the burden of proof and could have been dismissed, and you still want more?
The article is the classic example of concern-trolling.
Instead of showing statistics or actual data, it talks about this “economic crisis” of Cuba, it interviews a particular person to make people feel pity, shows a few pictures of people selling produce on the streets (normal in Cuba since the 1990s’ periodo especial)… The writers don’t know about Cuba, and don’t care about Cubans. It’s just a wannabe hit-piece to create concerns in the West about the conditions of Cubans. That’s why I’m dismissing it. The claim “there’s hunger in Cuba” requires statistical evidence supporting it.
Perfect, so why not say this directly? And why not provide evidence for the other side?
Only focusing on what we do not believe is a big part of how we got to the shitty situation we are in today. Such a bias really hurts us and we must constantly remind ourselves that the other side is just like us.
I said well functioning.
I don’t consider the US well functioning by any metric
CileTheSaneI don’t consider the US well functioning by any metric
I agree, which countries do you consider well functioning?
Canada, Sweden Denmark Australia
7 million Canadians going hungry under capitalism: newswire.ca/…/new-food-banks-canada-research-show…
And aren’t Sweden and Denmark famously more socialist than other developed countries?
All capitalist countries are well-functioning, it’s just some are exploiters and some are exploited. But that’s not a malfunction, that’s there by design.
Or, to quote Chomsky:
We therefore conclude that in India the democratic capitalist “experiment” since 1947 has caused more deaths than in the entire history of the “colossal, wholly failed…experiment” of Communism everywhere since 1917: over 100 million deaths by 1979, tens of millions more since, in India alone.
Cowbee [he/they]Exporting your poverty and starvation to foreign countries where you super-exploit and plunder does not mean that the cause isn’t with the “well functioning Capitalist country.”