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Rooki Jul 29, 2024

Media Bias Fact Check - Automation

https://lemmy.world/post/18073077

Media Bias Fact Check - Automation - Lemmy.World

Hello World, As many of you have probably noticed, there is a growing problem on the internet when it comes to undisclosed bias in both amateur and professional reporting. While not every outlet can be like the C-SPAN, or Reuters, we also believe that it’s impossible to remove the human element from the news, especially when it concerns, well, humans. To this end, we’ve created a media bias bot, which we hope will keep everyone informed about WHO, not just the WHAT of posted articles. This bot uses Media Bias/Fact Check [https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/] to add a simple reply to show bias. We feel this is especially important with the US Election coming up. The bot will also provide links to Ground.News [https://ground.news/], as well, which we feel is a great source to determine the WHOLE coverage of a given article and/or topic. As always feedback is welcome, as this is a active project which we really hope will benefit the community. Thanks! > FHF / LemmyWorld Admin team 💖

HBK Jul 31, 2024

Mods, I appreciate this bot!

Deciphering media bias is tough, and finding 1 site that will ‘perfectly’ identify biases is an impossible task, but at the minimum having this bot show up on posts ‘gets people thinking’ about the credibility of their news sources.

MBFC doesn’t have to be the ultimate arbitrator either. If it is missing something about a specific article people can call it out in the comments. At the end of the day, the worst thing it does is add more data about a news source and I’m not gonna complain about that.

Rooki Jul 31, 2024

Thanks! MBFC isnt perfect, its made by humans and in their free time.

It’s not perfect, why is this being pushed as an arbiter of truth?

Rooki Jul 31, 2024

Just to be sure: We NEVER said its the truth or should be held accountable for any of your sins.

You are a human and have your own brain. Use it, use the block button, if you dislike the bot. Like a normal human being.

Krauerking Jul 31, 2024

As always feedback is welcome, as this is a active project which we really hope will benefit the community

So this wasn’t true huh?

Cause people are trying to give you feedback and the response from you guys have been.

Well we don’t care what you think! We are doing this no matter what!

Rooki Jul 31, 2024

Cause people are trying to give you feedback …

The feedback is “MBFC BAD, DELETE IT, ITS A THREAT TO OUR DEMOCRACY”

No improvement idea? No… thats NOT feedback, thats just crying around.

Something like MBFC NEEDS to be here, not all mods can fact check each and every news page and inform the users with it. ( This would probably get the same shitstorm like this because “THE MOD XYZ FACT CHECK IS BAD, BAN HIM, HE IS A THREAT TO OUR DEMOCRACY” will come up too )

So what would you recommend? That is doable for free and no one dislikes it? ( Deleting the bot is NOT an option )

If you have a better Fact Check page you trust let me know, i would LOVE to implement that into the bot.
We were already thinking about making a “public” open source github repo where people could contribute their fact checks and trusted people review it. ( BUT this will get the same shitstorm like the previous 2, because some people have something against their news page being (in their eyes) “wrongly” fact checked and marked.

Do you see the trouble the “MBFC BAD ewww” and no resolution is causing here?

Please in the love of god ( or not god ) use the block button. I will lock these posts if shitpost comments like these are still coming.

Sry, i am a little pissed, that no one sees the block on their website/app.

Krauerking Jul 31, 2024

You are demanding people use a block button for something that has discourse about implementing at all.

Are you being paid by them to add it? Seriously? I get that you are pissed at you are the moderator. You signed up for this job and that means being in a position that requires talking to and listening and leading the community.

This is just immature and incredibly unnecessary. It’s not a propaganda blocking tool you implemented but a bot that links to a website that lets people make immediate bias judgements before they even interact with other people.

Do you see the trouble demanding this is what’s best is doing?

You’ve clearly chosen a side and demand that everyone bend to it. Lock the post and lock the sub. You clearly don’t want to be here.

Rooki Jul 31, 2024

We added the possibility for users to use the newly added context how they want it or not.

And you overexaggerated how much impact it really has on people. I have the feeling i am speaking with just some peoples alt here, just my suspicion.

Like said, if you dont like it block it. Like with everything else on the platform. Dont get you angry over a bot.

Krauerking Jul 31, 2024

You put a whole screen immediate responding banner of a comment that states an unmediated declaration of trustworthiness of an entire publication attached to each new post linking an article. You have no idea the impact as much as I do or the people trying to alert you that it’s a bad idea.

And now you get to appease yourself and stroke your ego by arguing that the people in here aren’t real because it’s just names on a screen with no real connection to them existing. Great.

Way to stand behind the community and it’s users. Really shows you give a shit. Can’t believe you are the arbiter of a news community.

AhismaMiasma Aug 1, 2024

Rooki, please consider listening to the community.

catloaf Jul 31, 2024

No, it does not need to be here. Deleting the bot is absolutely an option. Refusing to reconsider your decision is childish.

theherk Aug 3, 2024

the transmission of evaluative or corrective information about an action, event, or process to the original or controlling source — www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/feedback

Definition of FEEDBACK

Definition of 'feedback' by Merriam-Webster

nia_the_cat Jul 31, 2024

We are giving you feedback because of this line, this response is not the kind to be expected from an administrator that respects their community.

As always feedback is welcome, as this is a active project which we really hope will benefit the community.

Rooki Jul 31, 2024

Yes but thats is just straight up crying about it. Not feedback, feedback has not the “MBFC BAD BURN IT TO THE GROUND” - vibe. It is rather constructive, like “Hey MBFC is not perfect, i have found a good alternative API / other cool idea like community made data …”

nia_the_cat Jul 31, 2024

Look. The community dislikes your change. If you don’t have the ability to act in the interests of your community, then quite simply you are not a good moderator.

I’m deleting my account. I refuse to be on an instance that it ran by immaturity.

Krauerking Jul 31, 2024

Maybe the feed back is we don’t want or need this bot?

Like, your option is not between chopping off your left hand or your right and all the people screaming kot to do it are just trying to get you to swap the axe to the other hand. Maybe they just think you should put it down and rethink why chopping off your hand is the only choice.

You are stuck on a singular option of it must exist without reason for why other than because you kinda think it’s cool despite users telling you it’s not. To the point that you are going to punish people who don’t like it or report it.

It’s childish. It really is.