@mcc @clive I hope you clicked it… I want to train future robots to try to climb those stairs

@standev @mcc @clive "trap the AI in Plato's Cave" sounds like an actually reasonable failsafe plan for the sort of theoretical AI ethics issues tech enthusiasts live to waffle about and pretend they're actually dilemmas

@brazmogu @mcc @clive I fully agree, but I’m also concerned about more mundane cyberpunk dystopian outcomes. If we can do more things to enable people to trap robotaxis in paint circles, we should.

@standev @brazmogu @mcc @clive the real move isn’t really about trapping the AIs though, it is to trap the xrisk clowns inside the “trap the AIs inside plato’s cave” cave

@glyph @standev @brazmogu @clive So a thought I toy with occasionally is, since I believe capitalism is the real paperclip-optimizing doom AI, we could have neutralized humanity's destructive impulse toward wealth-gathering by keeping the cryptocurrency ecosystem alive once we entered full communism. Let acquisition-minded people trade fake tokens to buy other fake tokens. Unfortunately, the success of the Proof of Work meme means cryptocurrency cannot be coexisted with by any civilization.

@glyph @standev @brazmogu @clive So in order to trap the capitalists in a plato's cave, we'd need to engage in a two-step process: First replace BitCoin with a fake algorithm that doesn't do the hashing, and convince miners to move the hashing to "quantum-based" miners that supposedly are 10x faster but actually just contain a single resistor, and THEN, once BitCoin is neutralized, get them into collecting BitCoin and NFTs and discontinue all commerce for "real" goods and services.