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CausticFlamesIsn’t biden older though?
this one does require a “small” amount of “critical thinking”
Yes but he backed out and it says oldest candidate.
Right, and for this election cycle Biden won’t be a candidate but Trump will. Trump is now an older candidate than Biden was when he was a candidate.
So, as I understand with all these comments, they’re only candidates if they appear on the ballot on election day? Regardless if they ran and then dropped out?
That would be correct. The debate and everything up to the DNC has been pure punditry. He was not an official candidate.
I am confused if they aren’t candidate until they appear on the ballot. Then what do we call them in the meantime?
Someone said in another comment that Biden dropped before he was officially nominated, so technically, he was more like a candidate to be a candidate if I get it right
samus12345He was a presumptive candidate.
MeowZedongYou’re confused because they don’t know what they’re talking about.
Nominees are the candidates selected by their party. Candidates are those who are campaigning for a position. Neither term is conferred by actually appearing on the ballot (a nominee can drop out before the election), but being officially nominated by their party is how they will get on the ballot.
They are candidates for president when they are nominated by their party. Trump was last week, Biden never was.
See If everyone just was able to give a clear and consice, non bullshittery and non-assholish answer like you, the world would be so much better. Thank you, legitimately.
Biden stepped down before getting the official nomination. Trump was nominated by his party last week. That makes Trump officially the oldest candidate to ever run in the general election for a political party.
You are confusing the term candidate and nominee.
Both Biden and Trump were candidates. Trump is not the Republican nominee, Biden was the presumptive Democrat nominee.
FeydaikinJesus, I just realized there’s only 4 years between them.
They should both be retired, not running for second terms as president.
He’s not a candidate in this election, and Trump is older now than Biden was during the last election.
For those who struggle with math, that means that Biden is less than 4 years older than trump. The people criticizing Biden’s age and not trump’s as well never actually gave a shit about Biden’s age. Look forward to those same people making up bullshit reasons that Harris is less capable than trump. They know they’re full of shit, but it’s not about making sense, it’s about trying to obfuscate what’s pretty clear so that independents and undecideds give up, get frustrated, get confused, and/or get demotivated so that they either stay home or vote 3rd party. There are only two viable parties in this bullshit first past the post system; one of them wants Project 2025 and one of them doesn’t. Look at bullet points for what that is and then get your ass to the polls. It’s that simple. The only people trying to convince you that it’s not that simple are the ones who don’t want you to look at those bullet points because it’s pretty obvious whether most people are for or against that playbook. It’s damning.
First of all vote.
Second of all, I’m sick of this fall in line and do what we say bullshit.
Fuck you!
I will do what I want and if it happens to fall in line with what you tell me to then you’re lucky I’m even still going to do it.
Fucking authoritarian bullshit is supposed to be on their side
Irremarkable"Hey, the other guys are fascist, so if you don't like fascism, you probably should vote against them"
REEEE YOU'RE A FASCIST FOR EVEN MENTIONING THAT MAYBE PEOPLE SHOULD VOTE A CERTAIN WAY
Fun fact: all fascists are authoritarian, but not all who are authoritarian are fascists.
The other commenter rightly called your condescendingly controlling behavior based on adherence to authority authoritarian without calling you a fascist.
You may want to check who replied when bud
Huh? You’re saying that the timing of his reply is somehow germane to whether or not telling people what to do is authoritarian behavior?
Btw, just for the record, I don’t believe in not voting and will hold my nose and vote for the lesser evil when necessary. That’s not my problem with your comments.
My problem is you pretty much ORDERING people to follow the example of you and me rather than advocating for it without authoritarian language.
I didn't tell anyone to do shit. I was simply pointing out that suggesting if people don't like something they should vote against is in no way fascist or authoritarian or any of those things
The sheer level of mental gymnastics you'd have to do to think it is is frankly impressive.
I never said to fall in line. I said to look up bullet points on what Project 2025 is, look up who is for and who is against it, and get to the polls. I didn’t even say who to vote for. Everybody voting will result in the will of the people, and as somebody who likes having a democracy, that’s what I’m advocating for. I have my own opinions about which party is more pro democracy, and it’s probably pretty obvious to anybody who is paying attention to politics, but I was intentionally vague so that people can come to their own conclusions based on “doing their own research”.
But I guess for you, telling people to inform themselves and vote based on factual information makes me an authoritarian. Cool.
Please dont vote. I have a good guess where that vote would go
To Harris, just like I said it would
The people criticizing Biden’s age and not trump’s as well never actually gave a shit about Biden’s age.
You’re right about a lot of us, just not in the way you’re implying: I and a lot of others objected to his diminished capacity rather than his age itself.
Berne’s a little under a year older than Biden and sharper than people two decades younger.
Nancy Pelosi is a year or two older still, and not showing anywhere near as stark signs of decline as Biden is.
Come to think of it, the media harped on and on about Bernie’s age in both the 2016 and 2020 primaries without ever mentioning the health of Hillary or Biden. Did you come to Bernie’s defense in 2020 since he’s in better health than both, heart stent and all, and less than a year older than Biden?
Look forward to those same people making up bullshit reasons that Harris is less capable than trump
Nobody ever said less capable than Trump. There’s several orders of magnitude between “not fit” and “as unfit as Trump”. That Biden was behind in spite of being a much less awful candidate and president was down to Trump’s religious cult as well as media gaslighting.
Personally, I’m no fan of Kamala but I believe that, unlike Biden, she’ll beat Trump if nominated, so you won’t hear me calling for her ouster like I did for the one who was literally incapable of doing the job.
Btw, notice how my comment is much more easily readable than your wall of text in spite of being of similar or greater length?
Breaking up your points into paragraphs takes literally a few seconds and improves the legibility of any long comment immensity.
Yes, Biden clearly showed signs of losing his mental acuity. I didn’t really believe it until I saw it in the past couple of months. But a lot of conservatives weren’t really articulating acuity, they were saying he was too old.
Age in general is a concern to me as well because these old fucks don’t understand how different the world is now compared with 30-50 years ago. Wealth is also a concern to me because wealthy, privileged people haven’t struggled like average Americans have and/or do. Congress needs more people like Katie Porter who understand what it’s like to make difficult home finance decisions and be thankful that there’s even any semblance of choice involved.
Yes, I was fully on board with Sanders in 2016 and 2020. I also liked Warren. One day in the future, maybe Buttigieg or Jeffries. It’s exciting to speculate on all of the rising, younger Democratic stars.
I have my issues with Kamala Harris, but I think that she’s probably the best person to run against trump in 2024 especially with only 3.5 months (which sounds like plenty of time to pick anybody to me, but I’m not qualified to assess that). She’s not my favorite, but I’m more excited about her than I would’ve been for Biden.
My only real concerns for Harris running are what the media spoonfeeds to the gullible masses and what the October surprise will be this time. There’s a part of me that wishes Biden would resign just to take away the talking point of “trump has been president and she hasn’t; is she capable of running the country?” Plus we would already have had a couple months of a woman running the country before the election, so people could see that that’s not an actual thing to be concerned about.
Nobody ever said less capable than Trump.
one nit to pick: i assure you, a lot of people harping on about biden’s ‘mental decline’ do in fact think trump is more capable, or at the very least are happy to claim to believe so. you’re clearly not one of them, but they exist in droves.
and if bernie had been elected, i suspect they’d make the same claims regardless of evidence to the contrary.
Still says ever, although op points out that he wasn’t officially nominated, but hell I’m a candidate for president if I say so because I have said i was and I meet the minimum requirements
I don’t think you meet minimum requirements for a lot of things.
You can do better than that
How was your 48-hour nap?
Yes, but he’s not officially a candidate this year and never will be.
CocoLopezHold my beer.
Jajajajaja “laughs in Argentina Cristina Ladrona de Kirschner”
Other than after 9/11 when we were lied to about the war, Republicans haven’t won the popular vote in my lifetime.
They’ve also never won with anyone who isn’t Trump in 20 years.
driving_croonerAny other incumbent president had lost the election?
Jimmy Carter and George H.W. Bush, off the top of my head.
JusticeForPorygonPoor Jimmy, great guy
He could have been a great guy, but instead chose violence and oppression while in office. Repeatedly.
How much must one repent to balance out spreading terror across the globe? No matter how committed he is to changing his legacy, he will never be able to take back the suffering he helped cause.
Jimmy Carter's Blood Drenched Legacy
Five months ago, I wrote an article titled “Jimmy Carter’s Blood-Drenched Legacy” about how the former President’s record in office contradicted his professed concern for human rights. Despite campaigning on a promise to make respect for human rights a central tenet of the conduct of American foreign policy, Carter’s actions consistently prioritized economic and security interests over humanitarian concerns. I cited the examples of Carter’s administration providing aid to Zairian dictator Mobutu to crush southern African liberation movements; financially supporting the Guatemalan military junta, and looking the other way as Israel gave them weapons and training; ignoring calls from human rights activists to withdraw support from the Suharto dictatorship in Indonesia as they carried out genocide in East Timor; refusing to pursue sanctions against South Africa in the United Nations after the South African Defence Forces bombed a refugee camp in Angola, killing 600 refugees; financing and arming mujahideen rebels to destabilize the government of Afghanistan and draw the Soviet Union into invading the country; and providing aid to the military dictatorship in El Salvador, despite a letter from Archbishop Oscar Romero - who was assassinated by a member of a government death squad weeks later - explicitly calling for Carter not to do so.
Ok meow Zedong at lemmygrad. We totally care what you think.
You don’t have to care what I think if you read and make an informed decision on your own. As it is, I suspect you didn’t bother to read the link?
No. I don’t read bullshit from lemmygrad.
How about some Bullshit from Hexbear instead?
After Nixon resigned in disgrace, America voted in a Democrat…and then booted him out and went back to Republicans for 12 years.
It doesn’t speak well to our decision making as a voting population.
Electoral* voting population
What do you vote in, other than elections?
Not the electoral college.
In all 3 elections I’m referring to, the Republican won the popular vote as well, so that’s not relevant in this case.
Are you cherry picking elections from before 2000? Democrats have won the last four elections in popular votes.
I was responding to a comment about Jimmy Carter losing the election. Seems pretty relevant to me.
Yeah ie what you’re saying. Sorry bout that
I’m assuming you’re not American.
If I’m correct in that assumption, you’re in for a real fucking treat. Our elections don’t follow simple popular vote or ranked-choice. We have our own system that was designed back when the average citizen was uneducated and therefore couldn’t make an informed decision. It’s quite interesting (and infuriating) to research.
To point out the very biggest flaw, a presidential candidate doesn’t need the popular majority to win the election. Republicans will try to say this is not an important problem to fix, because it’s only happened three times in the nation’s history, but you’ll so find when looking at popular vote numbers that this is loophole is the only thing that gives Republicans a chance in the presidential election these days. Since 2000, we have had 2 Republicans and 2 Democrat presidents. Both of the Republicans lost the popular vote, but still won the election. (The one other time was Andrew Johnson in like the late 1860s I think.
Sound confusing? Of course it does, the whole system is intentionally confusing to keep you from asking questions!
I am American, and the in three elections I’m referring to, the Republican candidate won the popular vote as well. Obviously it’s not like that any more, but I was pointing to the 12 years of Republicans we got right after Nixon specifically.
Well that tends to happen when someone shows up saying “we don’t negotiate with terrorists” then proceeds to not only negotiate with terrorists, but conduct business with them in order to aid another militant group that congress wasn’t fond of,
In other words, giving [the enemy] aid and comfort.