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@tomw Some of the most fervent technology hating luddites I've seen has been total nerds.

Seems like half of the folks in an anarcho-primitivist camp back in the days worked as programmers.

Like folks were tanning hides and talking about how PHP totally sucks.

@alemppu @tomw Be careful, you'll get those nerds properly riled up by using "luddite" as a slur! There's a very good analogy here that I don't think you meant, but luddites *were* technologists, they were the ones building the auto-looms, improving them, etc. it wasn't technology they were objecting to, it was the fact that unions were illegal and they were being told that their comfortable well-paid work from home jobs now had to come into a factory floor for a 10th of the pay.

@sam @tomw Umm... I'm a total nerd and an out and proud luddite myself.

And yes, the exact point is who controls the development of technics and tools and what is their effect to peoples and communities.

@alemppu @tomw my apologies then; let us convene the tribunal and smash some AI's and shit!