1984Tech Giants Withholding Products Because EU Regulation like GDPR
devfuuuReally hope so.
sunzuCorpo propaganda at it again...
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You might think that but you're missing cool thing like, ah.. the metaverse..?
What’s the easiest EU country to emigrate to?
darklamerThanks for taking my joke literally and showing me a new search engine. That Google one seems pretty good. I’ve been using AltaVista and my BBS to find info but that’s way quicker.
Also, if you want to be a smart ass about it, use letmegooglethat.com/?q=dikfore
ObiI was gonna one-up you with Lycos but as it turns out, it still works!
Also, if you want to be a smart ass about it, use letmegooglethat.com/?q=dikfore
There’s really no reason for you to be rude.
Why do I need a reason?
People are posses but I actually liked the link, so thank you.
If you have no human principles, Hungary. You just have to buy some papers for it. Maybe learn a hard and useless language. But definitely love corruption and the suffering of other humans.
This is not true. You need to have years of presence OR have Hungarian ancestry and a few years less presence OR be married to a Hungarian for a couple years. Top this off with being able to know the Hungarian language.
Not if you buy the letelepedési kötvény (immigration bonds).
Other countries have a similar system. Canada for example has the Start-up Visa, which requires about C$225k investment, or the Quebec one (now suspended) which required C$1.25m over five years.
From what I can tell, the Hungarian requires somewhere between 200 and 300k EUR. This is not something that is affordable or easy to attain for the average lemmy poster. But again, this also does not guarantee citizenship, just residency.
mr_strangeMalta. You just have to pay a (largish) fee, and they’ll have you.
Sounds like it’s working to me.
Zuckbot, comply with GDPR or forget about EU.
In this case I think it’s the DMA they’re butthurt Bout.
The article mentions both. Meta is still complaining about GDPR.
If your “product” is stealing my information for your “AI”, then please “withhold” it.
RobotToasterOh dear, how sad, never mind
Avid AmoebaThreatening a dog with a weiner I see. That’s a bold strategy.
henfredemarsUSA only wishes we were this cool.
Lvxferre [he/him]If the products or “products” being withheld are deemed useful by their users, you’re bound to have someone filling the gap created by the butthurt tech giants leaving. Without all the associated data vulturing.
Capitalism at its best
I wouldn’t say “capitalism”, given that some of the alternatives filling the gap to be non-commercial in nature.
ricdehFree market economy at its best
If we’re really lucky, those replacements might even become competition for the original products outside the EU, and drive the data vultures out of business.
(Something has to go right in this timeline eventually, right?)
I feel like there’s a good chance that this happens, as long as they catch inside the EU, due to network effect.
This is more bark than bite, imo. They’re just threatening to withhold products at this point, but as the article points out:
- Europe’s a big market and profit focused companies aren’t going to give that up just to make a point
- Those that do will just encourage European competition to step up and fill whatever gaps might appear, which is just fine by the EU.
So… go right ahead. Let’s see how this really plays out.
And the products they are threatening to withhold are exactly the products we don’t want. Last time the tech giants threatened to leave entirely the EU asked when to plan the going away party. The current tactic from the giants isn’t much better
xavier666“Don’t threaten me with a good time”
mannycalaveraDoes this mean we dont get to be tracked, data mined, ad-bombed, and exploited while our teens dont get depressed and sick from “social” media?
Nah you still get all of that but in a shitter product.
May I introduce you to our friend and saviour, the GDPR regulations?
Nah, you can build algorithms that make depressed teenagers with little to no tracking. Especially if they can train said algorithms from data they already have from the rest of the world.
This just in: good time threatened. O no
IchNichtenLichten“Meta has decided not to release a new multimodal AI model and related products in the EU.
The move follows a similar decision last month by Apple to withhold its new Apple Intelligence features from Europe.”
Oh no. Wait. Come back.
wow so they’re holding back on wasteful broken products?Seems like win win
JackFrostNColaYou’re tearing me apart lisa!
We don’t want your shitty products :)
RegalPotoo-
Apple reversed log standing design policy to put a USB C charger in the iPhone because not selling iPhones in Europe was not a financially viable option.
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Apple won’t launch their AI features in Europe because changing to comply with regulations is too hard
These features aren’t that important then I guess?
This is a total win for Europeans.
Bring more Europe to the US. Lol
It’s too bad the websites that do this don’t have to put a label on it in the U.S. Something like “Not for consumption in the E.U.” to make people wonder what’s going on.
oh no, not the products!
ParagoneThis escalation will continue,
until big-tech forces the governments to kneel to the surveillance-capitalism biggest:
They will simply say something like:
“Either your government removes laws, regulations, accountability, etc, from us,
XOR we are hamstringing your country: we OWN you, we POSSESS you, & you will obey OUR rule.”
I guarantee this will be happening between now & 2036.
Remember how they can ratchet-up a genocide, anywhere??
They’ve already done so, in some places…
( Facebook & … was it Myanmar? as 1 example )
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until big-tech forces the governments to kneel to the surveillance-capitalism biggest:
You think governments are resisting?
Governments without lobbying and revolving doors. Yes.
Do you know what an optocoupler is? It’s when there’s no thermal or electric connection between parts, but the information gets transferred.
This is the same. Government officials don’t have to officially communicate with businesses in corrupt ways or allow such “revolving doors”.
They may communicate, well, face-to-face unofficially, get kickbacks.
And they also can do things mutually interesting for the business and the official without ever communicating about it, the economic interest is that communication in itself.
And then economic interests are just a subset of power interests. Like surveillance.
I upvoted purely for using xor in regular speech
BigBenisOh no! Anyway…
Oh… no… please… do not do that…
Anyways
Could they withhold their existence while we’re at it?..
Nice! Thank you EU for the GDPR!
For the next step, please let the companies that produce software be held accountable for damages. For Nonprofits change the target to associated companies. Also punish the people responsible, like the developers, for their software and choice of used libraries. If the library was insufficiently supported by the developer, then the developer has no ground to sue for damages themselves.
Also punish the people responsible, like the developers, for their software and choice of used libraries.
What??
You write shitty code and it breaks something? You should be punished accordingly.
You load libraries without checking each and every one and now something’s broken? You should be punished accordingly.
You load proprietary code and now something’s broken? You better checked the whole contract so you can punish the creators after you’ve been punished.
Software developers often have way more reach (over distance and over time) than they realize. They should be held accountable more like doctors or engineers.