Sniper took picture of Trump rally shooter, saw him use rangefinder before assassination attempt, source says

https://lemmy.world/post/17632822

Sniper took picture of Trump rally shooter, saw him use rangefinder before assassination attempt, source says - Lemmy.World

in group text:

sends pic of shooter

“Hey, this guy looks kinda sus, huh?”

replys

Chief just now

“He’s just laying on the building maybe he’s just using the range finder to get a better view, idk though we’ll see what happens lol 😌”

Kudos for the layout formatting 👍

This is such a clown show…

One sniper inside spotted the gunman, Thomas Matthew Crooks, outside and looking up at the roof, observing the building and disappearing, according to the officer who spoke to CBS News. The sniper observed Crooks as he returned to the building, sat down and looked at his phone. At that point, one of the local snipers took a picture of Crooks.

Next, the local sniper observed Crooks looking through a rangefinder, an instrument routinely used by marksmen to determine the distance of a target, and he immediately radioed to the command post, according to the local law enforcement officer. The local sniper also attempted to send the photo of the gunman up the chain of command.

Officials then lost track of Crooks, who disappeared, but soon returned for a third time with a backpack. The local sniper team called for backup — alerting the command post that the gunman had a backpack and was walking toward the back of the building.

Two other municipal police officers who heard the call for back-up attempted to climb onto the roof. Butler County Sheriff Michael Sloupe told CBS Pittsburgh station KDKA that an armed municipal officer with Butler Township was hoisted by another officer onto the roof of the building where the gunman had taken a position. Crooks focused his rifle towards the officer who ultimately let go, falling off the roof. Moments later, the shooter began firing into the crowd.

this is… ugh, so bad
In a reasonable world everyone in the vicinity would’ve left him alone. Police snipers would’ve given some tips and offered to help monitor wind conditions. Treason carries a death sentence.
Y’all keep saying “Reasonable world”, but then Trump exists in that world, so I have no fucking clue what y’all are on about.
In a reasonable world Crooks wouldn’t have had that weapon to begin with
You’re forgetting that this stuff is very often just security theater and many officers are playing dress up. When shit goes down, nobody is ever prepared even when they have the correct training.
Yea, but this was secret service. They’re supposed to be the best of the best. I guess not.
That’s the biggest problem–there is no best of the best. It’s all just hubris and who you are connected to.
The only time where I am so goddamn glad the world is unreasonable
Apart from all the actual missed confrontations, it seems like you should just pay someone to be up on any building that’s a security risk. They don’t have to be super vigilant or highly trained, just the equivalent of a traffic cop working a construction site. Their presence alone would remove it as a threat.

You’d think so, but apparently a slightly sloped roof is more that the Secret Service can handle.

Secret Service Chief: Trump Shooter’s Sloped Roof Left Unmanned Due to Safety Concerns

Secret Service Chief: Trump Shooter’s Sloped Roof Left Unmanned Due to Safety Concerns - sh.itjust.works

I hope all these sources get on the same page soon because I have some old head friends who read all this stuff and believe he was a Chinese national working for the Iranians, set up next to snipers in a building cleared by locals. They say he was then confronted after he climbed a ladder but before he bear-crawled 25 feet to aim, only to be interrupted by local cops forcing him to fire quickly but was killed by snipers who had been watching him use a range finder for hours.

Please get it together, all these 50-year-old conspiracy theorists are going to start having heart attacks lol.

all these 50-year-old conspiracy theorists are going to start having heart attacks lol.

And that is a problem why?

Mainly because heart attacks suck and tend to kill but also because I’m not a heartless cunt wishing death on people just because they are stupid.
Also because the heart attacks of god fearing republicans was the goal all along! The Democrats, in concert with George Soros, devised this plan in 2020. By fixing the vote, it radicalized the Trump loving shooter setting up the situation for the shooter to be the cause of the heart attacks. Its an elaborate multi-pronged plan years in the making that is only now coming to fruition…and these liburls think good republicans are stupid enough to fall for it. Pizzagate!11!1!!! /s
Gen X isn’t the problem here. It’s boomers. It’s always been boomers who were the problem.
Oh now there old friend, I wasn’t making a generalization as to a whole ass generation. I am sure I could commiserate with you as to the fuckery boomers have shit down our backs since they traded in free love for free hate but I try real hard not to drag ass on a bitch after 5pm if you get my meaning.
I’ll do it for you. They all have Reaganite Brain Worms, throw them in the trash.
Generalized hate, how progressive of you.
It’s based on science 🔭
There’s a lot more of gen x than boomers. Maybe y’all should have been voting.
Hey now, don’t go there, because you are right
It’s exactly the opposite–more boomers than Gen X. Also I’m Millenial so relax a bit.
U.S. population by generation 2023 | Statista

After surpassing Baby Boomers as the largest generation group, Millennials now make up a major part of the U.S. population, although Gen Z is catching up fast.

Statista

Aight. Like 5 million off still.

Regardless, more than 5 million still alive are in nursing homes and too ill to manage to vote. 11% of the 65 and over bunch have dementia. The majority of those people won’t vote.

And your point is (somehow) still that no one from Gen-X votes… or something?
you have to forgive them for forgetting about Gen X, it is sort of a theme
there were far more Boomers than ever existed in Gen X, likewise for Millenials
In my experience GenX is almost as bad, they have a huge fucking chip on their shoulders instead of believing they are God’s chosen generation
Depends. Older Gen X is basically like young Boomers. Younger Gen X are basically like older Millenials.
It’s the 1% vs the working class, not generation vs generation
Then Trump will only have 1% of the vote then, I feel better.
Unfortunately, far too many of the 99% see themselves as temporarily embarrassed 1%.
All that lead they consumed growing up. Distorted their brains and making them clinically insane.

I know right? Boomers are the worst.

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Every generation has greedy people who ruin it for everyone. It’s weird though how many people seem to forget how far forward we were pushed because of their generation.

I’d suggest reading the article. It gives the play by play of how the events occurred. I think you’re reading headlines and then constructing your own picture of what happened.

Bless your heart, I read it right before I posted. Thank you kindly for the advice though.

At some point, everything I wrote was in an article just like this one, only citing "sources in insert official entity here and always starting with “sources say.” Well, except for the Iranian one, that one was a separate incident but a buddy of mine mentioned it right before I read the post so I added it.

If only there was ONE MORE GUN OFFICER SNIPER he would NOT have been able to get a shot off!
It takes seventy trigger happy good guys to kill… Somebody.
If only everyone in the crowd carried sniper rifles.
Trump wasn’t carrying. There’s your problem. He didn’t have self-defense and white boy goated with the sauce almost caught him lacking
Kind of surprising they didn’t blast him as soon as he pulled out the rangefinder.

pulls out range finder from ~130 yards away. Proceeds to miss 7/8 shots completely on a 6ft3" 240lb man from the prone.

He was a 20 year old kid who knew he was seconds away from death, who had just scared off a cop who had come up the ladder after him. I’m not sympathetic for him, but I could understand him being jittery and missing. Paper and clays don’t shoot back. It’s not true practice.

Yah, jesus, I get shaky just lining up a nice sized deer still, and I’ve been hunting for years. And I don’t have anyone breathing down my neck and 30 seconds to shoot.

The fact he just barely missed with a shitty AR-15 at over a hundred yards is a minor miracle.

Apparently, he tried to join his school’s rifle club but was rejected for having terrible marksmanship.
That’s so stupid, isn’t that kinda what school clubs are for

I’m not commenting on whether that’s true or not, but it isn’t how it works in the south. If you want to play high school soccer or whatever, you have to quality by doing well in middle school. Some places, middle school is competitive enough to warrant tryouts.

Extracurriculars are also rapidly getting more expensive. Too many parents want to pretend their kids are in the NFL or NBA or whatever.

If you break Range rules, you get 86ed