Musk says he'll spend about $180 million to elect Trump.

They are the nation's two most powerful enemies of democracy (though Musk has some competition for second place) and, by extension, freedom of expression.

Everyone who buys a Tesla is supporting them.

Everyone who uses the deadbird site -- notably the journalists, who all know what they're doing -- is supporting them.

Don't pretend otherwise.

@mmalc @dangillmor they're trying to sell it, right? Keeping it after they knew is just as bad

@drdrowland @dangillmor

Strongly disagree.

There's no reason for an individual to incur what may be a non-trivial financial penalty or other lifestyle change for something that's effectively beyond their control.

I think the sticker actually delivers a more useful message.

@mmalc @dangillmor why do you think it's a nontrivial financial penalty? If it's not you're wrong in this opinion or no?

@drdrowland @dangillmor

Typically the overhead for changing a vehicle is likely to be thousands of dollars, taking depreciation, availability of replacements etc. into account.

And even if there's no cost, it's simply an unreasonable imposition on someone for what was a good decision they made several years ago.

Assuming you have a car, how would you feel if someone told you you had to change it to pass some sort of ideological purity test?

@mmalc @dangillmor I'd feel great about it because if it's a given they found rational reasoning for me to change something that trivial I'd go all in on that newfound method to reduce my negative impact on the planet and my local communities.

Changing vehicles can involve moving down the vehicle cost ladder thereby incurring no cost especially when we're taking about teslas which are expensive cars.

@drdrowland @dangillmor

I call bollocks.
For most people a car is not trivial. They're a major investment.

I personally spent a long time choosing the car I currently have so that it's *comfortable* for me. Switching to a new vehicle would not be a simple matter.

And apart from that the person you sold the car to? You're now going to denigrate them for having a Tesla? How are you going to differentiate between them and the original owner?

The arrogance of your imposition is breathtaking.

@[email protected] @dangillmor I'm glad you're comfortable in your car, mmalc. A lot of people can't achieve that even with a car they can't afford and some even because of what elmo has done to our country and the planet.

I would differentiate them by the purchase price they paid.

A better bumper sticker would be "I got this car for free because it's worth less given what that dude did to make it and the people that could afford it tanked the price on purpose like a real American"