Ocasio-Cortez Loses the Democratic Socialists’ Endorsement Over Israel

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Ocasio-Cortez Loses the Democratic Socialists’ Endorsement Over Israel - Lemmy.World

The Democratic Socialists of America pulled its endorsement of Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York this week, accusing the progressive congresswoman of being insufficiently supportive of the Palestinian cause and efforts to end the war in Gaza… Her approach has increasingly strained her relationship with some of the left’s most strident critics of Israel. When she rallied last month in the Bronx with Senator Bernie Sanders and Representative Jamaal Bowman, dozens of pro-Palestinian demonstrators angry over her endorsement of Mr. Biden chanted “You’re a fraud, A.O.C.”

AOC’s national endorsement was (and still is) preventing DSA from working on solidarity with Palestinian liberation organizations across the country. I get that to a lot of people, AOC is the ideal reformist Democrat, but that’s really just a condemnation of how bad even the ‘good’ Democrats are.

From DSA’s statement on the issue:

“However, members have raised their concerns regarding a number of her votes, including a vote in favor of H.Res.888, conflating opposition to Israel’s “right to exist” with antisemitism. AOC also co-signed a press release on April 20, 2024, that “support[s] strengthening the Iron Dome and other defense systems”

Finally, AOC recently hosted a public panel with leaders from the Jewish Council for Public Affairs, lobbyists for the IHRA definition of antisemitism. On this panel, anti-Zionism and antisemitism were conflated and boycotting Zionist institutions was condemned. This sponsorship is a deep betrayal to all those who’ve risked their welfare to fight Israeli apartheid and genocide through political and direct action in recent months, and in decades past.”

Of course that behavior got her unendorsed. It’s fine if you, random Lemmy users, like her, but I’m glad that explicit workers-owning-the-means-of-production socialists are holding their endorsed electeds accountable. That shit shouldn’t fly.

I get that to a lot of people, AOC is the ideal reformist Democrat, but that’s really just a condemnation of how bad even the ‘good’ Democrats are.

Cool, glad to know that no Democrat is good enough for you to oppose genocide in the US. Great.

The easiest way to piss off pugjesus is to expect politicians to oppose genocide everywhere, not just at home.
Sorry that genocide at home upsets me. Unlike you enlightened types, I happen to think that MORE genocide is actually BAD, especially when it’s not even to prevent another genocide, but solely out of petulant spite. But hey, what do the lives of minorities matter to you? You have your ideals to uphold, right?

Sorry that genocide at home upsets me.

Sorry that you feel the need to advocate for genocide abroad.

“God, I can’t wait to make the Palestinian genocide worse! That will really help the Palestinians being genocided!”

You have fun with “Fascism is left praxis now”, those of us who aren’t fascists will carry on trying to save as many lives as we can.

As long as none of those lives are in Gaza.

Tell me more about how many lives you’re going to save in Gaza by putting Trump in power. Tell me more about how Trump definitely hasn’t declared his intention to intensify American support for the genocide in Gaza. Tell me more about how many Palestinian lives that’s going to save.

Oh. Of course. You don’t give a fuck about Palestinian lives.

And the assumption that anyone who is critical at all of Biden’s support for the genocide must be a trumpist.

Since you can’t defend your advocacy for genocide any other way, you have to spam false accusations against anyone who dares to insist that the lives of Gazans have value even when a Democrat is president.

And the assumption that anyone who is critical at all of Biden’s support for the genocide must be a trumpist.

Oh, of course, you don’t SUPPORT a Trump presidency, you’re just interested in passively allowing it, and all the genocide that it entails. When we go in the camps, you’ll sit happy at home and muse on just how moral you’ve managed to be by fighting the Dem candidate at every turn.

You’re almost indistinguishable from the fascists that support him. Certainly indistinguishable in your disregard for Palestinian and American minority lives.

Since you can’t defend your advocacy for genocide any other way,

Me: “Israeli is a genocidal apartheid state, we should remove all aid.”

Clearly this is the position of a genocidal maniac.

Me: “Israeli is a genocidal apartheid state, we should remove all aid.”

That is the position you have now called me a fascist twice for holding.

lmao, and here I thought I was criticizing your view on how punishing Biden is more important than Palestinian lives, because punishing Biden makes you feel good, while fewer dead Palestinians don’t matter to you.

lmao, and here I thought I was criticizing your view on how punishing Biden is more important than Palestinian lives

You assumed that was my view. It is not.

It’s pretty telling that you want Biden to step down for bein’ old, but lose your absolute shit when anyone says that he should stop supporting genocide.

but lose your absolute shit when anyone says that he should stop supporting genocide.

Cool, I’m sure you can back that up and definitely aren’t talking out of your ass, as always. I’m definitely sure that you won’t look at “More genocide is not an alternative” as “Supporting genocide”.

You keep advocating for more genocide, buddy.

Cool, I’m sure you can back that up

Simply scroll up and read what you’ve posted on this thread.

lmao. So you don’t actually have anything and you’re talking out of your ass, because you hate it when it’s pointed out that more genocide is actually a bad thing. Cool. Good talk.
Any genocide is a bad thing. Democrats should not be supporting it at all. Yet here we are. Now keep working on getting that ice floe ready for Biden because you evidently think bein’ old is more of a problem than supporting genocide.

Any genocide is a bad thing. Democrats should not be supporting it at all. Yet here we are.

Yeah. Here we are. And we have to deal with the situation at hand, not as we wish it to be.

And we have to deal with the situation at hand, not as we wish it to be.

But he should also step down because he’s old. You have one set of standards for things Biden can change and another for things he can’t.

But he should also step down because he’s old.

No. He should step down because he’s lost the confidence of his party.

You have one set of standards for things Biden can change and another for things he can’t.

He SHOULD stop supporting the genocide, but that doesn’t look likely. He SHOULD step down, and that looks like it might plausibly happen.

No. He should step down because he’s lost the confidence of his party.

That confidence was already eroded because of his support for genocide.

He SHOULD stop supporting the genocide

And it follows that people who call for him to stop are all fascists who want Trump to win, somehow. It’s nice that you can actually admit that he’s supporting genocide.

So you’re allowed to criticize Biden for being old, but not for genocide. Huh.
Why so you feel the need to continuously misrepresent other people’s views? Is it too complicated for you to understand?
The only reason Biden is sending fewer weapons to Israel than Trump might, is because he is marginally responsive to the criticism you denounce people for.