Arrrrrr - Lemmy

Why pay corporate scum when you can not :| sorry not sorry people in the entertainment industry. You should negotiate better union terms.

Yes, it really does come to morals.

Like, would I really feel ok supporting an industry like that? With their shitty wages, horrible copyright practices, just evil corporate practices (nepotism, extortion, sexism, etc) - not exclusive to entertaining industry, but I can def chose not to support & fuel the suffering.

I want & do pay for small studio projects, FOSS initiatives, etc.

Long live there *arr services & their contribution to worlds culture & humanity through equality/comradeship.

If it comes down to morals, don’t pirate, boycott. If your actions can be perceived as indistinguishable from selfishness, they probably are. And the only message you’re sending is “we need to crack down more on piracy” not any actual good.

No. You sound apologetic towards shareholders.
When something is part of the everyday life like this it isn’t really the best thing to stay out of.

And boycotting something I wouldn’t have payed for doesn’t make sense.

And what you call selfishness is the boycott here. That takes away from the megacorps (and not from the artists).

I don’t wanna boycott people making series, I want way-too-big publishers & co to die.

Morals are not the same as laws, lol.

Agreed. Don’t know why you’re saying that, since I didn’t mention the law anywhere.

And what you call selfishness is the boycott here. That takes away from the megacorps

It is not. If you boycott something you aren’t benefitting. You are making a sacrifice in order to enact a change. And critically, if corporations want you behave differently, in a boycott they give in to demands. With piracy, they try to crack down on piracy.

(and not from the artists).

I’m sorry, how do the artists get paid when you pirate?

I don’t wanna boycott people making series, I want way-too-big publishers & co to die.

If that is genuinely what you want, all you have to do is not purchase the content. Pirating it does not help you kill giant publishers. All it does is make it shittier for the people funding your free entertainment.

As I said in a different comment, if this is actually a moral thing for you, for every dollar you save by not paying for the things you enjoy, donate it to a union. If you’re not, it clearly wasn’t really about the artists, it was about you getting free shit.

I’m sorry, how do the artists get paid when you pirate?

my guy, they were already paid for their time, this isn’t a small indie production.

You didn’t answer the question. Where did the money come from that paid for their time?

the studios that originally produced the content, the people that are paying for streaming services, and if it’s a movie, the box office earnings.

And physical media sales, if any.

So, in summary, their income comes from people buying their stuff. So I ask again, how do artists get paid when you pirate? Or is your stance that you want the artists to get paid, you just want other people to do it for you?

how does a business get paid when they fuck up and have to take a loss. How does a business get paid when they have no customers, this is literally rolled into the economics. There are very few situations where this should be a problem, unless you’re withholding some draconian amount of control over the media.

If you’re mega corpo billion dollar industry collapses because it can’t release products that people won’t pay for, that doesn’t exactly sound like my problem.

Everybody needs money to live. A lot of people are fine paying a bit of money to get access to media they like. Not everyone though, and you know what? That’s ok, it’s free marketing. A commonly reiterated statement is that people who pirate things, aren’t people who are going to pay for something to begin with. However they are significantly more likely to pay for it after the fact. Or for future releases coming from the same entity. It’s still net positive income at the end of the day. Most people don’t want .WAV files, or .MKVs they want to watch the content. And that’s what they’ll do.