federinoJul 9, 2024

Easy

https://programming.dev/post/16608175

Easy - programming.dev

Show threadidegenszavakJul 9, 2024

No, they are not free, they are gratis alternatives.

“Free software” is one term, and it’s meaning was defined in 1986 by RMS. Non of these software existed that time.

The word “free” in our name does not refer to price; it refers to freedom. First, the freedom to copy a program and redistribute it to your neighbors, so that they can use it as well as you. Second,** the freedom to change a program, so that you can control it instead of it controlling you; for this, the source code must be made available to you.**

The Free Software Definition - Wikipedia

Show threadFreemanJul 9, 2024
As a german speaking person: Shut up and stop using german translations of words as if it has a different meaning. It gives me Angst.
Show threadidegenszavak
Ich kann nicht sprachen deutch sehr gut. wdym, what is the original german meaning?
Jul 9, 2024 at 5:51pmWeb
Show threadkrippixJul 9, 2024

gratis means free, but only in the sense that it dosen‘t cost money. So it seems like a valid use for the word.

Is there an english equivalent?

Show threadidegenszavakJul 9, 2024

Gratis and libre used usually to differenciate the terms: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratis_versus_libre

Both of them are latin words so I expect they show up in similar forms in most European languages. Free is a Germanic origin word.

In Hungarian we use the word Gratis as well with Hungarian spelling: “Grátisz” even though Hungarian is not an Indo-European language. Libre is not used in common speech here.

I don’t get what @[email protected] wanted to say

Gratis versus libre - Wikipedia

Show threadFreemanJul 11, 2024

I find it very confusing when german words are used to mean something different that their english counterparts.

So in english: free ≠ gratis ≠ libre fear ≠ Angst car ≈ Auto (i heard it used for a car with a automatic transmission and also a few years ago as a term for a selfdriving car)

But also the other way around In Swiss-German: Bus ≠ Car (First one being a trolleybus in a city, second one a bus that takes a schoolclass on a trip.)

I am aware that words like “gratis” or “auto” are not exclusive to german, I guess that gave me the downvotes.

Show threadkoperJul 14, 2024
No, you got downvoted because you were insulting and incorrect.
Show threadccdfaJul 10, 2024
Gratuitous can be used to mean the same thing, but English speakers also use gratis
Show threadVenia SilenteJul 11, 2024

Is there an english equivalent?

Yes: “gratis”.

English is literally about mugging other languages in a backalley for words (and boning them for grammar). It’s the ISO standard procedure.