𝗖 𝗔 𝗧Question for Anarchists: What is your strategy for achieving a revolution against the capitalist state and ensuring its overthrow without a centralized vanguard party?
I am not an anarchist
I am an anarchist (answer below)
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Ian Inferno@Radical_EgoCom anarchy is incompatible with the "overthrow" of the state. That just results in another state. The state must dissolve. They invariably do. In the meantime, anarchy exists at the interstices in the form of autonomous zones and direct action. Those activities answer the question "how can we survive without a state?" Which is similar to the question "how can we survive without a king."
1/3 All states do not invariably dissolve, specifically the bourgeois state. It will maintain its power over people indefinitely if not challenged. The inherent traits that capitalism perpetuates (greed, selfishness, competition) causes the capitalist ruling class to consistently do everything in their power to maintain their power, whether it be reforms to quell the revolutionary masses or fascism to force them into submission.
2/3 A socialist state, on the other hand, can dissolve due to socialism being capable of eliminating the class strife in society by putting power on a more equal level, and since states only exist for one class to maintain supremacy over another, it is possible for a socialist state to dissolve. But a capitalist state will not dissolve of its own accord. It will have to be overthrown by force.
3/3 Also, I'm not confident that your proclamation that anarchism is incompatible with overthrowing the state is accurate, since anarchism is simply the belief that there should be no state or hierarchy, which is compatible with a desire or movement to overthrow the state.
@Radical_EgoCom
In some other threads you mention logic and proof. We can state, by definition, that anarchism implies no state, and therefore overthrowing one government and installing another is not anarchy.
When we discuss history we have left the realms of deduction and induction. That's fine, but let's not pretend rigor.
So far, we have no evidence of overthrow resulting in anarchy. That doesn't make it impossible, but history suggests overthrow results in a new state and a new elite.