š¹Early to RISA š§Anon wants to be a vampire
VubDappleJokes on you Anon! If everyone is a vampire then whoās blood do you suck?
You farm the remaining humans like livestock? We mastered factory farming 100 years ago, no reason things need to change just because the animals can talk back.
bizarrolandOkay but among those people who choose to remain human, how many of us would be okay with donating blood every two weeks in exchange for food and rent?
Think about it. If the vampires have all the power, why would they kill their food source when the longer they let their food source live the more food they get out of it?
Let us tra-la-la and have happy-go-lucky existences, which will probably make our blood taste better to them, and they can spend their eternities competing for resources or whatever makes a vampire happy after the first 500 years.
BjƶrnI see a novel forming.
Iām sure there are multiple already in existence
Thereās even a movie
KuadhualThereās one already, where the vampire is a head of state and religius leader. (Luminous Valentine)
Iāve been saying this since I was a kid. Every time I see a blood donation place. Thatās a vampire organization and you canāt convince me otherwise :D
iām always tempted to sing:
in the gloom of mighty cities, 'mid the roar of whirling wheels, we are toiling on like chattle slaves of old and our masters hope to keep us ever, thus, beneath their heels and to coin our very lifeblood into gold.Iām still salty that PETA stole their web domain from People Eating Tasty Animals.
This was part of the plots in the movies Blade & Blade 2.
The problem becomes apparent in this film: m.imdb.com/title/tt0433362/
starman2112Fun fact, human blood can be vegan, as long as the human is consenting
the definition of veganism has nothing to do with consent, only exploitation.
embed_meDoesnāt consent imply the absence of exploitative forces?
exploitation and consent are unrelated. I exploit water resources every day, and consent is an absurd topic to raise in this context. the definition of veganism requires the abstention from exploitation of animals for food. there is no exemption made for consenting animals
Exploit does mean āuse/utilizeā but I assumed the common subtext of āuse unfairly or in a manner not conducive to overall welfareā
the ambiguity does not seem to be helpful in defining veganism, and the definition should probably be updated
The way that people use the word āexploitā when talking about living things is different from the way we use it when talking about nonliving things. It implies a lack of consent from the one being exploited.
consenting exploitation is still exploitation.
And if Iām consenting, then it isnāt exploitation when a hot vampire gives me the biggest fucking hickey
consenting exploitation is still exploitation
en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/exploit
Scroll down to verbs. When youāre talking about someone else, thereās an implication of unfairness. This is why vegans donāt eat animals or use animal products. If the animals could consent, there would be nothing wrong with it.
The definition from the vegan society doesnāt mention unfairness at all. it prohibits exploitation carte blanche
And exploitation, when talking about living things, implies unfairness and nonconsent
And exploitation, when talking about living things, implies unfairness and nonconsent
You realize the word becomes entirely useless if we use your definition, yeah? Virtually every interaction between living things becomes exploitation under your silly definition. Itās not very useful. Iāll stick with the more widely used definition, wherein it would be exploitation for Nosferatu to suck my blood, but not Mavis Dracula or her dad
Virtually every interaction between living things becomes exploitation under your silly definition.
yea. it is. but the vegan societyās definition doesnāt prohibit exploiting living things: it prohibits exploiting animals.
the word becomes entirely useless if we use your definition, yeah?
i disagree. i think it draws sharp contrasts that help us understand both the standard and whether we are meeting it.
Nothing is vegan then.
wrong.
ZozanoI use Arch plant based alternatives BTW.
We mastered factory farming 100 years ago
Speak for yourself! I havenāt even begun practicing yet!