Trump-loving gays say their MAGA support is ruining their lives

https://lemmy.world/post/17369318

Trump-loving gays say their MAGA support is ruining their lives - Lemmy.World

That guy seems like you could explain irony to him 20 times in a row and he’d never get it.
Damn, black gays for trump must be getting pounded then. Pun intended 🙂

How is this an example of leopards eating faces?

In this case the backlash is from the gay community to a (stupid) member of the gay community, so saying it’s a leopards-eating-faces party (lefp) member getting their face eaten would mean the gay community is the lefp right? I don’t think that’s what the lefp meme is about

You’re right, but people aren’t listening to what your point is

No you and that commenter are literally wrong lmfao what do you even mean.

The meme derives humor from the fact that someone who voted for leopards was surprised when leopards hurt them.

The gays in the article supported bigots and was surprised when the bigots started to hurt them.

The article’s ambiguous, but wasn’t it the LGBT community (rightfully) showering them with sand?
That would fit with the rest of the article, which includes the fellow who got blacklisted from his local gay bar for being MAGA.
Hey hey now I’m just here to argue, not read articles
It’s the dumbest possible thing to argue about, and the Internet is 86% people finding dumb things to argue about

I don’t take kindly to your tone! There are a thousand other ways you could have said this. Let’s fight about it!

Oh, yeah! Also, your mom is fat and you over feed your pets, I’m assuming.

Your lover made a minor faux pas? They’re a sociopath and they never loved you.

I bite my thumb at thee

Ha, that’s my favorite part of that play.

“Is the law of our side if I say aye?”

“No.”

Just plain “no”. Gets me every time.

TIL rights and being denigrated by society is dumb
🤷😮‍💨
This person supports policies that hurt themselves and their peers. Now their peers are angry with them for supporting things that hurt them. They are being hurt by the result of what they support.
That’s not leopards eating faces though. That’s a guy voting for the leopards-eating-faces party and getting his shit rocked by his fellow citizens for endangering them.
A little bit of column A, alotta bit of column B.
Yeah, but in this case it’s not the leopards eating their face (yet). They’ve voted for the leopards, people are angry at them for it, but so far the leopards have only eaten other peoples faces

Eh, then you could say voting progressive and getting attacked by your conservative community would count as leopards eating face, since you’re getting hurt by the result of what you support.

The meme is about voting for the harm and being directly harmed by the policy voted for, like if someone voted to ban abortions and then couldn’t get one when they needed it. Voting to ban abortions and then getting backlash from your friends is not leopards eating face (yet) either

This guy is voting not only to have his own face eaten, but everyone else’s within his community. I wouldn’t want to acquaint myself with someone like that either.

I’m not saying the guy did a good thing. In this article he voted for the leopard party, but hasn’t had his face eaten yet. He voted for the leopard party and everyone was fucking pissed at him for it

idk I thought the leopards eating faces party meme was mainly for examples of them both voting for leopards and getting their face eaten.

It’s a little more nuanced than that. The typical face eating leopards voter doesn’t have enough critical thinking to figure out they’ll get eaten eventually. Everyone else around him knows they’re gourmet leopard food and it’s only a matter of time before they’d get eaten. I wouldn’t wait to hold my judgment on the guy until after the inevitable happens because of his dumb-ass decision.
I see, so the meme is also used in cases where they voted for the leopards but haven’t had their face eaten yet?
Once again… leopards, faces
Being a complete moron ain't exclusive to straight people.
Wait til you see what happens in another 7 months

“When Trump won, my husband was so upset he wanted me out of our apartment. The rage was unexplainable — I mean honest rage. I could not understand this emotion in him and why anyone would let a political vote destroy or nearly destroy a marriage,” he said.

Could not understand why anyone would let a political vote destroy a marriage. A political vote for a party that wants to destroy that marriage might do it.

Also reminds me of the “the missing missing reasons” thing. Where one person is like “it’s unexplainable. i have no idea why they’re so upset” but when you probe a little, you learn that they did explain.

The Missing Missing Reasons | Issendai.com

Members of estranged parents' forums often say their children never gave them any reason for the estrangement, then turn around and reveal that their children did tell them why. But the reasons their children give—the infamous missing reasons—are missing. This article examines the phenomenon and offers some explanations for why it happens.

“I don’t understand the emotion”

Exactly like my dad on this. It’s really simple, he likes Trump’s crudeness, cruelty, insulting, and offensive behavior, and getting a rise of people for supporting him or repeating his most blatantly vile statements is this juvenile fun to pay around with.

He knows he’s eating shit to make other people smell his breath. Everything past that is a justification slapped together. Ultimately nothing matters to them past the sport politics sophmoric bullshit.

does something specifically because it hurts other people

“why don’t they like me?”

Why are people like this

He believes that hierarchy is the correct way of the world. So he thinks it’s his right and duty to keep people “in their place”. That’s why (in his mind) giving shit to people below him is ok.

Notice how these people never give shit to people “above them”, even though trump and others treat them like shit. He accepts shit from people above him and doesn’t understand why people below him don’t accept it from him.

That’s actually a pretty interesting lens to use for analyzing these people’s behavior
It’s not a “lens”. It’s what conservativism is. This is the only commandment: protect the hierarchy and stay in your place.
In D&D, this is termed “lawful evil”.
This is an explanation of being a bully
Yeah pretty much. Trump isn’t even the worst person I’ve seen a lot of GOP friends and family get enthralled with, he’s up there with Rush Limbauh, Micheal Savage, Dr Laura, Anne Culter, these people have been openly white supremacist and racist fascists since the 90s or later. And they all come up with taking points that are often cruel, petty, childish insults. Conservatives eat it up. It’s all great fun for them.
I wonder how many of our current problem boomers are a direct result of leaded gasoline.
Probably quite a bit. When a reduction in leaded gasoline directly correlated with a fall in violent crime, it was confirmation. We know how long lead lasts in the body, and all that lead in the atmosphere didn’t just disappear. We know there is no safe amount of lead exposure.
Very interesting and very sad read.

good.

choices have consequences.

no one who endorses a psychotic dictator should ever be allowed to feel comfortable in life.

Psychosis refers to a mental state characterised by hallucinations and paranoid delusions. Are you saying Trump hears voices in his head he thinks are real?

a not inaccurate description of his behaviors.

especially the paranoid delusions.

his constant professing of what “people” “say” “to him”, especially particularly absurd things that there is no evidence anyone has ever said to him, would also technically meet the definition of him hearing voices - IF he is not lying. Which, to be fair, he could be, because he lies about a lot of shit all the time.

Impossible to rule out. Looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims like a duck. I’m no ornithologist but heuristically speaking treating the proverbial duck-like phenomenon as though it is a duck coincides with a statistically high probability of ideal results.

I don’t think Trump’s delusions are paranoid. In fact, he’s remarkably unbothered given the very real dangers he faces. If he suffers from delusions, I would say they’re the opposite - confident delusions.
Apparently, Jews for Hitler are also having some trouble. They’re commiserating with the black members of the KKK.
I can understand people disagreeing with them, but kicking sand and attacking people is literally the actions of fascist too. You don’t win people over by attacking them.
That sounds like the right answer, but really, I’d be right there kicking sand.
You don’t prevent your bar from becoming a nazi bar by asking nicely though.
So what’s the plan then? You going to punch the other side in the face to win their votes and show them how anti-fascist you are?

You make it clear they’re not welcome in the community, by force if necessary, and you let them back in once they’ve shown they can be trusted to be a member of the community again. IF they show they’ve changed.

I’ve been on a committee of people making this decision more than once. Rarely do people change enough to be welcomed back. Community self policing is the only way to really protect yourself when the government shows they wont.

Where do they go? Do you propose that America has red states where only conservatives should live & blue states where liberals can live? Do you want to put over half of voters in concentration camps?
Oh no, the slipperiest of slopes attached to nothing but pure conjecture! I will never be hungry again with all of the words you just put into my mouth!
I asked with question marks. Do you know what a question mark is?
Their point was that kicking someone out of a small club isn’t the same as kicking them out of the state. Your exaggeration of their point is what made it bad, not the point itself. That’s what the slippery slope fallacy is. They saw no point in debating your exaggerated question because it was so different to their position. They showed that they understood your debating technique better than you showed.
No, they showed that they wanted to engage in fascist behavior against a majority of voters right (according to polls).
If you put a paedophile in charge of the country, none of our children are safe.

I had planned on voting for Biden, but seeing how much Democrats are lying and gaslighting I’m actually thinking about staying home at this point. But you must know, even Biden has a history of questionable behavior with kids, sniffing them, touching them inappropriately, and it appears (according to Snopes) that Ashley Biden wrote about him showering with her and confirmed the diary to be hers in court.

Furthermore, Trump has not been found guilty of being a pedophile. Democrats had 4 years to bring up charges on Trump being a pedo. They did not do it. Biden doesn’t call Trump a pedo. It is the Democrat voters grasping at straws who are in a cult making accusations rather than presenting policy because they lack intelligence.

Your double standards are striking (across multiple conversations here). In this case you’ve concluded that a girl who got death threats for bringing a case against Trump withdrew, not because of the death threats, but because she was lying, and you’ve equated smelling hair with rape.

I once said that I thought that a politician who is famous for some pretty racist policies was probably trying to do the right thing in an admittedly stupidly foolish way on a separate issue, and people got very cross with me online for defending her, but it never once made me inclined to vote for her, that would be idiotic, so I simply don’t believe for a minute you were thinking of voting for Biden. If you want to claim you were prepared to vote for Biden, go on, what was it that made you think he would be a better president than trump?

The reasons I was inclined to vote for Biden is because I am agnostic. I support LGBTQ+ rights. I want to see the government providing more safety nets for people. Trump helped foster the environment for the Jan 6. insurrection. I’m not considering staying home to help Trump win. I’m considering staying home because Democrats actions lately have been gaslighting and lying. The state I’m in is not a swing state.