@Bam @thetitanborn

Same. To be honest, I'm trying to do more than hope. I'm willing to be here while many parts of it are not yet great for Black users, and work with all the awesome folks that are making it better.♥️👍🏿

I'm following in the footsteps of the Black Mastodon users that have been here for years, who started when it was much less welcoming than what I experienced, so that hopefully the Black folk that join after me, will have an even easier time than me.

@Bam @thetitanborn It's fascinating to see that about half of the replies to @thetitanborn 's post, are cringe-worthy forms of "I haven't seen any problems for Black users / your post is unnecessary / we don't see race here."

So yeah... there's work to do.

@mekkaokereke @Bam @thetitanborn any specific things allies can do to help? My brain jumped to helping finance and support primarily black or BIPOC instances but I’m a bit sheltered/privileged and there’s bound to be a lot I’m missing.

@dave @Bam @thetitanborn

1) Don't ask Black users to CW discussions of their own racism.

2) Don't be on a server where mods mistreat Black folk.

3) Support the mods on your own server, financially and otherwise.

4) Don't engage with sea lions that say "Mistreatment? Here? prove it!" There have been enough threads shared on Black folk receiving racism. Individually convincing each one is exhausting, and expecting that is a tactic of bad faith actors.

@mekkaokereke @dave @Bam @thetitanborn I very much appreciate your openness about the challenges here, and I want to do my part to build a community here consistent with my values. This includes not placing the burden of building and protecting the community on members of marginalized groups that are being mistreated. Are there ways as an end user (beyond reading the server rules) for me to evaluate the quality of moderation of an instance? I'm new and building my fediverse toolkit.

@lewriley @dave @Bam @thetitanborn

The best way today, is to follow a bunch of Black users and see their experience. As I've pointed out this is very insufficient, as it means that many Black users experience N*zis first, then move to a better server.

I've been online for many years, so I'm used to N*zis and their death threats. But for many Black users, this experience is jarring.

Worse than the N*zis, is the "regular users."

https://hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/109388611222845153

mekka okereke :verified: (@[email protected])

@[email protected] No, lets! 🙂 I am "bashing" an instance. (If providing useful feedback to protect other users is considered bashing?) The instance I'm bashing is "Mastodon dot cloud." The reason I'm bashing it is because the moderation is insufficient to protect users from a vile instance clearly run by self proclaimed racists for the purpose of harassing Black people, Jewish people, and members of the LGBTQA community. There are better moderate instances users should go to.

Hachyderm.io

@lewriley @dave @Bam @thetitanborn
An instance like mastodon.cloud can say that they don't tolerate N*zis in their "server rules."

But the reality is, a Black user on that server can receive racist death threats complete with snuff images and video of Black folks and women being killed. Flagging for moderation did nothing. The Black person leaving that instance and warning other Black users to choose a better 1st server, gets the Black user blocked.🤡

@lewriley @dave @Bam @thetitanborn

My issue is not with N*zis. Trash people and sociopaths will always exist.

My issue is with the violence inherent in insufficient moderation coupled with a "use CW!" culture that denies the self reflection that would allow Mastodon users to realize that outside of 4ch*n, many Black users' *worst online experience ever*, was on Mastodon.

If you don't follow Black users and listen to them, you would never know this.

@lewriley @dave @Bam @thetitanborn Right now, a bunch of white Mastodon users are thinking "Racist snuff images? OMG!!! I didn't know it was that bad! This is awful!"

But a bunch of other white Mastodon users are thinking, "He really should have put mentions of (his own) death threats behind a Content Warning. And... he seems to have moved servers? So what's the problem? Why is he still saying bad things about his old server?"

🙂🙃

@mekkaokereke @lewriley @Bam @thetitanborn that’s fucked, I’m sorry to hear that that kind of behavior is going unaddressed.
Re: CWs, I think a lot of folks feel like it’s a blanket to hide the less savory parts of life from people with trauma. Upon some reflection, this scenario reminds me of a phrase used in talking about police and racist Karen interactions: that it’s there to minimize white discomfort.

@dave @lewriley @Bam @thetitanborn If there's a police shooting and there is a video? I put a CW around that. I also put CWs around topics like disordered eating, etc.

But I experience racism almost every day, as do most Black US citizens. I'm not going to start every other sentence with "CW" just to make y'all feel better.

Hiding racism to protect white feelings is just more racism. I won't do it. I do respect folks' right to Block me for that. 👍🏿

@mekkaokereke @dave @lewriley @Bam @thetitanborn the attempts to control Black expression of racism by gating it behind CW etc strikes me as just another attempt to shush difficult topics behind a screen of genteel "politeness." I grew up in a white civil rights activist household in the South and I was taught early that much white Southern "politeness" is actually a control tactic used to protect the status quo, and on a gut level this feels like the same thing.

@mrcompletely @mekkaokereke @dave @lewriley @Bam @thetitanborn
Yes!!!
I've thought this, but never felt brave enough to say it. I think CW has gone crazy and is actually preventing discussion.

(I often just scroll over CW posts and don't even open them at all)

@Godfrey642 @mekkaokereke @dave @lewriley @Bam @thetitanborn to be clear, I also think CWs are underused by some of the masto population. I like the CW feature and believe in it, and I'm not weighing in on the argument about where the principal locus of responsibility for filtering content is.

But I want non-white ppl to want to be here, and making room for free expression of their experience is clearly a requirement for that; and silencing that conversation has the familiar stench I mentioned.