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Democracy Matters 
Amen.
JohnWI hope the right gets the message when Trump is trying to distance himself from it.
It's like saying to someone who idolizes you:
"Look, all I want to do is minimize Government, privatize their agencies and protect family values. Don't worry about the fact that you'll have to pay for weather reports, higher insurance, your internet will be throttled down with the lower plans, your wife may die because she can't get an abortion, you may be arrested if you're an activist, if you protest, if you're Black or Asian or gay or have other sex interests.
See, you don't have to worry about any of those pesky freedoms because we'll handle them all for you!"
Dave GoldsmithI think everyone who is rational is more worried about 2025 then the debate. But it's not a zero sum game here. It's not like only focus on 2025 and disregard the debate. Right?
Abyssal Rook@Dave_Goldsmith It's not a zero sum game, but it's also not a game where we need to hyper focus on an old man with a stutter not doing well in a public debate so intensely that the two issues are seen as not only remotely comparable, but that the debate DOMINATES public discourse almost exclusively.
Trump on that same stage effectively said that the only possible valid election is one in which he wins, and I have to DIG through private journalism blogs to find *anyone* talking about it.
I'm not focusing on his debate performance. I didn't even watch the debate. I didn't watch because I knew he is in cognitive decline and it would be excruciating to watch him. I still would prefer him to be president over Trump. I would prefer a yellow dog over Trump.
@Dave_Goldsmith You, unfortunately, are not the only person to exist in the world.
Media companies, small outlets, politicians, people on both the left and the right, they've barely said Trump's NAME since the debate. The focus has been exclusively on bashing down Biden. So when you swing by and say "Well we should worry about both" my only response is that we've "worried" so much about Biden at the debate that no, we do not need to keep worrying about those two things at the same time.
I don't understand. Having Trump as president means the end of our democratic experiment. As things stand now I think Trump will beat Biden possibly even beat him with the popular vote. I think Harris would be a stronger candidate than Biden at this point. But I could be wrong. I was certainly wrong in 2016 when I thought Trump wouldn't even become the Republican nominee for president!
@Dave_Goldsmith Yes? That's the entirety of what this discussion is about.
You asked if we should ignore the debate. In your own mind? I don't care what you worry about. But if you go online and, based on a PUBLIC SPEAKING PERFORMANCE, spend even a breath opining about how bad Biden is, you're just running the op.
You KNOW how inconsequential it is: you just said it. So should "We" be worried about or bothered by the debate? After all the griping already?
Resoundingly, absolutely not.
I disagree. As it stands I think Biden will lose. I think Harris has a better chance.
Patrick Lovell
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