LinkerbaanJul 5, 2024

Iranian in UK flees to Israel after pulling off headscarves

https://lemmy.world/post/17244887

Iranian in UK flees to Israel after pulling off headscarves - Lemmy.World

An Iranian monarchist who filmed herself pulling the headscarves off Iranians in London fled to Israel after UK police announced they were investigating her. The woman allegedly responsible is an Iranian pro-Israel activist called Bahar Mahroo, who later closed her Instagram and TikTok accounts and claimed she found the videos online. However, a reserve image search found no sources for the video, other than her Twitter account.

Show threadfootoroJul 5, 2024
What an absurd story.
Show threadFlying SquidJul 5, 2024

This is just anti-Muslim racism.

There is no reason to believe that this woman is not herself a Muslim. Not all Muslims are in favor of head scarves. Iran was a Muslim country while the Shah ruled it too despite head scarves not being required in Tehran at the time. Is she a horrible person? Did she do something unconscionable? Absolutely. But I think calling her a racist for what she did when she could be Muslim herself is going a bit too far.

Show threadgeneva_convenienceJul 5, 2024
Show threadFlying SquidJul 5, 2024
I’ve spent a good 60 seconds looking at this picture trying to figure out what it is supposed to mean and I still don’t know.
Show threadgeneva_convenienceJul 5, 2024

It’s a reference to Redditors circlejerking about the same picture of an Iranian woman wearing a bikini in the 1960s. The rest of the country was not dressed like that at all but it makes for a good propaganda story about how the west “liberated” Iran by overthrowing their government.

For more information reddit.com/…/imagine_thinking_you_understand_the_…

And no Muslim that practices the faith will tell you that a Hijab is optional. It is not a contested opinion among any scholar either.

Show threadbarsoapJul 5, 2024
There’s no mention of Hijabs in the Quran and “dress modestly” is very much relative. You also may or may not see Turks drinking plum wine but they’re definitely drinking beer and most definitely Raki.
Show threadNoneOfUrBusiness
There is, in fact, a clear mention of hijab in the Quran. More than one in fact.
Jul 5, 2024 at 4:16pmWeb
Show threadfootoroJul 5, 2024
I can’t believe I’m getting involved in this but then you can surely show where it’s mentioned clearly?
Show threadNoneOfUrBusinessJul 6, 2024

And tell the believing women to reduce [some] of their vision and guard their private parts and not expose their adornment except that which [necessarily] appears thereof and to wrap [a portion of] their headcovers over their chests and not expose their adornment except to their husbands... until the end of the verse.

Surah al nur, verse 31.

It then explicitly assumes that they're wearing a headcover. The main debate around this verse and similar ones is whether the face and hands must be covered or not, and not whether everything else must be covered.

Show threadfootoroJul 6, 2024

Aha and which translation did you choose?

Do you speak Arabic? More explicitly, to an extent that would allow you to understand the nuances in a verse like that?

Show threadNoneOfUrBusinessJul 6, 2024
I'm a native speaker so yes.
Show threadfootoroJul 6, 2024
طب وأنا عربي كمان بس ولا عمري رح احكيلك انو فاهم اشي من القران لانو لغة القران مش لغتنا وحتى العربي الي بدو يدرس الدين لازم سنة وهو بدرس عربي بس عشان عن جد يفهم وأنا مش فاهم عربي لهالدرج وإذا أنا مش شيخ مش عارف كيف انت بدك تفهم هيك منيح لتعمل فتوى للناس
Show threadNoneOfUrBusinessJul 6, 2024
أنا فاهم قصدك بس الموضوع برده مش صعب للدرجة. الآية بتقول خمار و كلمة خمار معناها غطاء الرأس في اللغة العربية مش محتاجة فتاوى.
+أنا دورت قبل ما اتكلم فده كلام علماء مش كلامي.