RESULTS - 2024 Instance Census for lemmy.nz

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RESULTS - 2024 Instance Census for lemmy.nz - Lemmy NZ

Thanks to everyone who took the time to complete the 2024 Lemmy.nz [http://Lemmy.nz] Census survey! I asked for volunteers to proof read but got no offers so let me know if anything needs fixing. Especially let me know if terminology I have used is incorrect, I know some words hold a lot of weight to some people. All fully completed surveys are included in this summary, if someone didn’t submit, their partial responses are not included. No questions were mandatory so if someone didn’t answer the question, it’s not included in the results unless specified. Overall, we got 69 responses, which is pretty good I think. On average (mean), it took 5 minutes 40 seconds to complete. The median was 4 minutes 39 seconds. The longest was just over 30 minutes, and the shortest was a little under 2 minutes. You can see here the number of submissions each day in blue, and the running total in red. There was a spike when first posted, and a further spike when I posted a reminder post. The final submission was when I reopened the survey for a day on request as someone hadn’t managed to complete the survey and wanted to. line graph showing number of submissions over time [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/0cf5cb4b-ac89-4917-8da4-c749743a1e91.png] Let’s get into the actual responses. I’ve been told I should stick to bar charts because “pie charts are for marketing and pizza”, but I think it’s nice to represent some of these as proportions. However, where I’ve used a pie chart I’ve also included a bar chart in spoiler tags. I know in the past some apps have had trouble with spoiler tags, so if you have issues maybe read this on desktop. It’s a lengthy read anyway! ## Where are we? Where do you live? In a result that will shock no one, the vast majority of responses came from people living in NZ. pie graph showing country of respondents [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/f415fa1a-ba72-4081-b9a0-007d9fd229cc.png] ::: spoiler Bar graph bar graph showing country of respondents [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/2e7f1f8b-13b4-45bd-932f-12966e72f7a1.png] ::: Within NZ, Wellington is over represented but otherwise we seem to be spread out rather evenly by the population of each area [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regions_of_New_Zealand]. To my knowledge, /r/wellington is the only subreddit that had a post about Lemmy with any traction, so I presume this is the reason for the higher proportion of Wellingtonians. graph of region of NZ of NZ respondents [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/cc29ce7e-608d-4409-bbdb-df0fc26ac683.png] How big is your community? Most of us live in urban or suburban areas, with some write in options. Nationally, around 15% of us live rurally [https://nzdotstat.stats.govt.nz/wbos/Index.aspx?DataSetCode=TABLECODE7981], but for survey respondents this was around 7%. Pie graph of community (urban,suburban, rural) [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/8dd4e584-9c1b-412f-aa9a-9c0ffa8162ff.png] ::: spoiler Bar graph Bar graph of community (urban,suburban, rural) [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/6b44cba5-d4cf-4e46-b95a-2dc8ae85beba.png] ::: In your opinion, what is the quality of your internet connection? Most of us think our internet quality is great, with almost 81% stating the quality of their internet connection is Excellent. Pie graph of quality of internet connection [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/468a0f31-55a6-4928-8022-22b1e97ecea1.png] ::: spoiler Bar graph Bar graph of quality of internet connection [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/72d25bfc-cee8-4624-9f9a-141fa395c3fc.png] ::: This makes sense, since most of us have fibre. Pie graph of type of internet [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/2b6398dd-3b30-40d2-89ae-6fb4ac79c493.png] ::: spoiler Bar graph Bar graph of type of internet [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/8670cb71-097a-4698-bd85-88daf78d8e8c.png] ::: Within those with Fibre, we are pretty evenly split on being under 300Mbps and over 1000Mbps. I foolishly forgot to add an option in the middle, but one person responded 600Mbps in their “Other” option. Pie graph of type of fibre [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/ba2193aa-b33e-4a90-b5ed-b91fefb04ee9.png] ::: spoiler Bar graph Bar graph of type of fibre [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/d49f2d63-cb23-45c5-99eb-d0552e88d4bb.png] ::: ## Who are we? What is your ethnicity? We are a pretty white bunch. Way less ethnic diversity than I was expecting. The 2023 NZ census [https://www.stats.govt.nz/information-releases/2023-census-population-counts-by-ethnic-group-age-and-maori-descent-and-dwelling-counts/] showed around 44% of people identify with Māori, Asian, or Pacific enthnicities, so we are remarkably different from the general population. Three people indicated they preferred the team “Pākehā” to “NZ European”, though these are grouped together. Pie graph of ethnicity [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/a7a3bb48-c75d-4b13-807d-fa1a5e48099b.png] ::: spoiler Bar graph Bar graph of ethnicity [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/f73a1644-8af6-4212-be85-f5b8b826a24c.png] ::: What age range do you fall into? We have a reasonably older age than perhaps reddit does, but this is largely in line with Lemmy.ca [http://Lemmy.ca] and probably Lemmy as a whole. Bar graph of age [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/fa0db349-d6ef-4814-af1d-8d00b738108e.png] What is your gender identity? We are mostly men here, with this spread being broadly in line with Lemmy.ca [http://Lemmy.ca]’s results, so this may be representative of Lemmy. We do have a higher proportion of women and a lower proportion of people who are non-binary, but this is probably due to normal variance with the low sample size. Pie graph of gender [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/08410498-1dba-4e10-90e9-50068c41d372.png] ::: spoiler Bar graph Bar graph of gender [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/39249133-0773-4f89-9d33-8c3589530c10.png] ::: Are you someone with trans experience (meaning your gender identity does not align with your sex assigned at birth)? Two users identified as trans, and these users both identified as non-binary in the previous question. One user selected Other and indicated they have a gender identity for society, not for themselves. Pie graph of those with trans experience [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/f434b83f-1760-43f2-a93a-8f46d268b74e.png] ::: spoiler Bar graph Bar graph of those with trans experience [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/5c0d41cd-0247-4d04-898d-732061fdbfcc.png] ::: How do you identify? Almost 85% of us identified as straight, or 91% if you include those identifying as “straightish”. This value is much lower than the general population. StatsNZ reports [https://www.stats.govt.nz/information-releases/lgbt-plus-population-of-aotearoa-year-ended-june-2021] (based on a survey, not a census) that 4.1% of NZ belong to what StatsNZ referred to as the “sexual minorities population”, compared to 9-15% of respondents (depending on how you categorise “straightish”). Sexual identity pie graph [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/c2dc6301-d5a2-4dfc-84b8-0aa3a7c77f0a.png] ::: spoiler Bar graph Sexual identity bar graph [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/4efcba1c-940b-4c20-91cf-651a87f99ebe.png] ::: What is your disability status? To start, here is a graph of all respondents vs those that indicate a disability. Note that we did not have a way to differentiate between someone without a disability and someone who didn’t want to answer the question. 8 people specifically said they don’t have a condition or disability. Pie graph of those with disability vs those with no answer [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/6130eca9-0539-45a8-87f1-210b2d17743d.png] ::: spoiler Bar graph Bar graph of those with disability vs those with no answer [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/7e0a8ad4-5920-491d-a013-67147d150e03.png] ::: For those that indicated a condition, we see quite a range. For this question, there was a free text field and answers don’t nicely group, so in the interest of having a graph I have tried to nudge them into categories. Mostly, this means if someone wrote “Probably” or “Maybe”, I’ve assumed they have this condition. Hopefully I haven’t miscategorised anyone, but remember to take this with a grain of salt. Also, conditions are listed separately. If someone listed three conditions, they will show as three items in this graph. Pie graph of the type of condition [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/c6d8361c-9f87-4e78-b6a3-1f9415ff186c.png] ::: spoiler Bar graph Bar graph of the type of condition [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/d950d4be-c298-4225-93ae-54605b872ca1.png] ::: Are you currently studying? Around 10% of us are studying at the moment. Pie graph of if currently studying [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/0544eabf-a87c-4a75-b42d-f97456fa1dcf.png] ::: spoiler Bar graph Bar graph of if currently studying [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/91d12663-9d6b-4eab-9f40-f514ae6e6e61.png] ::: What is your highest level of education achieved? Almost 75% of us have a post-secondary school qualification! I thought I might find some cool relationship between the people who indicated ADHD and the people who had completed “Some university”. Despite 10 of the 13 who completed “Some university” indicating they were not currently studying, only one of these people indicated ADHD (and in fact, this was the only person in the group indicating any disability or condition). Pie graph of education level achieved [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/7fac7097-749b-47da-8c8c-31b6f2fa2c70.png] ::: spoiler Bar graph Bar graph of education level achieved [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/b51e7a81-6f87-4d78-aa5b-b80960f26082.png] ::: What’s your employment status? 89% of us are in paid work, which is higher than Lemmy.ca [http://Lemmy.ca]’s results, but this could be due to having a lot less respondents so a single person’s answer can change the outcome by a fair bit. Pie chart of employment status [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/f5c34f7a-e2c8-4061-9c9c-d644657accc1.png] ::: spoiler Bar graph Bar chart of employment status [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/63a5644f-3fd2-41ea-8732-ee29f7fdecf4.png] ::: If employed, what field of work do you work in? This question was a free text field. I have tried to group them into similar categories. This was hard, especially since there’s not a detailed job description for each, so take this with a grain of salt. Without these groups, there were many different answers with just one respondent with that answer. But rest assured we have everything from mechanics and plumbers, tourism operators and hospitality workers, researchers, archivists, engineers, manufacturers and those that do film visual effects. And this is all on top of the 57% of us that work in Information and Communication Technology (IT and communication). 23% of respondents listed just “IT”, and a further 23% stated “Software Developer”, “Software Engineer”, or “Web developer”. Bar chart of employment field [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/3f1ae96c-4cab-47dd-8329-e1b5ef863020.png] ::: spoiler Bar graph Pie chart of employment field [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/02f2a1c4-a60d-4b4f-9ce9-0f7c8f780e60.png] ::: ## Lemmy and us Which instances do you have an account on? Unsurprisingly, the largest group was lemmy.nz [http://lemmy.nz], followed by the larger Lemmy instances. Note that this was multiselect, so a user may be listed in more than one place. Bar graph of which instances people have accounts on [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/1fd79066-5657-4736-badf-6f7c8f0feca9.png] What other Fediverse services do you use? Lots of Mastodon users. Many use Matrix as well, which is unsurprising since Matrix chats are quite common with Lemmy, and Lemmy even allows a Matrix account to be linked to a Lemmy account to add a button to message a user on Matrix. And on top of that, we have a Matrix chat [https://lemmy.nz/post/169187] which would also encourage people to use Matrix. Bar graph of other Fediverse services people use [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/1528a0f8-6321-49bc-8f6f-9440a13529c1.png] On average, how much time do you spend on Lemmy each day (whether on Lemmy.nz [http://Lemmy.nz] or other instances) Most people are here less than 2 hours a day, which is similar to Lemmy.ca [http://Lemmy.ca]’s results. Bar graph of how much time people spend on Lemmy [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/6bb25f7a-64ba-419a-b66e-a42789dbd4fb.png] How do you access Lemmy most often? Most of us use mobile more often than desktop to access Lemmy. There was one “Other” selection stating “iPad”. Pie graph of device type used to access Lemmy [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/fd2d7a77-d9a9-430a-842c-9233d313bd67.png] ::: spoiler Bar graph Bar graph of device type used to access Lemmy [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/cf329d13-32e8-4207-99a2-7e3c3829abb1.png] ::: On mobile, which OS do you use? Over 80% of mobile users are using Android. We had users state GrapheneOS and CalyxOS (one each), I have included these in Android. We also had one user write “Both”, which I have added. Pie graph of mobile OS used [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/24d87e37-6026-47b9-b98c-51a333b1706c.png] ::: spoiler Bar graph Bar graph of mobile OS used [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/15e522bd-1f4d-4347-b990-1528fe0b49d1.png] ::: On mobile, which app(s) do you use? The most popular app was Voyager, followed by just using the website in a mobile browser. This was actually quite different from Lemmy.ca [http://Lemmy.ca], who had Sync as their most popular, followed by Jerboa and then Voyager. Bar graph of the apps people use on mobile [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/5f2df302-a63c-4edd-8550-90d530b8bb06.png] On desktop, which interfaces do you use? On desktop, people tended to only use the default Lemmy UI. This may partly be because it’s not particularly obvious that our other frontends [https://lemmy.nz/post/10718172] exist. Pie graph of most common ways to access Lemmy on desktop [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/1df90951-1625-4195-8ba4-1c28406cb71d.png] ::: spoiler Bar graph Bar graph of most common ways to access Lemmy on desktop [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/b00d21b5-f0f3-4482-88f6-64cd23e3db69.png] ::: If you primarily access lemmy.nz [http://lemmy.nz] through a different Lemmy/Kbin/Mastodon/etc instance, please list it below For those not directly accessing through Lemmy.nz [http://Lemmy.nz], Lemmy.world was the only instance with multiple people using it as their primary way of accessing Lemmy.nz [http://Lemmy.nz]. Graph of primary instance [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/5abe0c75-72ce-47ec-8b94-f0d35de05956.png] ## Final questions What’s your favourite desert? I’m an idiot and, after reading the Lemmy.ca [http://Lemmy.ca] answer about The Sahara, accidentally wrote Desert instead of Dessert. For favourite Desert, we have three votes for the Antarctic/Antarctica, two for Sahara, and one each for Gobi, Central North Island, and Arrakis. Graph of favourite desert [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/cc203665-b5f8-4764-baf9-317769417a86.png] For favourite Dessert, I have grouped and graphed the results, though I am sure to have offended someone with my groupings. The top answer was ice cream, followed by cheese cake, which mirrors Lemmy.ca [http://Lemmy.ca]’s results. One person decided “Ice-cream cheescake mix” was their favourite, which is not counted in either category and is instead listed separately. Graph of favourite dessert [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/152bf239-3c5a-4cb1-8864-07b05ce1a3f2.png] Of those that answered with a dessert, here is the full list: - Apple crumble x 2 - Blackberry and apple crumble - Cheesecake x 2 - Cheesecake! - Cheesecake, Strawberry - Chocolate - Chocolate chip cookies - Cookies and cream ice cream - Creme brulee - Custard - Don’t eat sugar - Halo halo - Home made pav with fresh strawberries - Ice cream x 3 - Ice-cream cheescake mix - Kapiti Ice Cream - Much Moore’s Double Choc Fudge Ice-cream - Peacan pie - Revenge - Strawberry rhubarb pie - Tarta de queso - Tiramisu - Tub of jelly tip ice cream - Vegan Cheese Cake Do you use the Matrix chat? Almost half of people didn’t know we have a Lemmy.nz [http://Lemmy.nz] Matrix chat room. Now you do! You can find instructions for joining here [https://lemmy.nz/post/169187]. If you’re having trouble, reply in the post and we can offer help. Pie graph of those what use matrix chat room [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/505e3099-032a-4c3c-9672-9040e735fbdd.png] ::: spoiler Bar graph Bar graph of those what use matrix chat room [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/9c89dc12-84df-4387-abbe-bf4d6aa1d547.png] ::: Are there any communities you would like to see created on Lemmy.nz [http://Lemmy.nz]? There were a handful of suggestions here, but no two people suggested the same thing. Firstly, we have a post here [https://lemmy.nz/post/63156] that outlines some NZ communities across Lemmy. It hasn’t been updated in some time, so feel free to reply with any that you know of to be added. Some people replied with things they don’t want, but I have filtered this out as people can block communities they don’t want to see. - /r/diynz - A dedicated outdoors community - Hurdy gurdy discourse - More regional NZ content - NZ mechanics, stained glass, or growing weed. - Something cheesy/cringe where we mock ourselves, kuhy-wee accent and maybe even small town monuments, etc. Almost nostalgia bit with shit posting and rivalry… Still got a way to go, but I reckon the ideas got legs. Bring back top town! - thetron - Hamilton In my view, I’d think most of these would be better posted to the !newzealand community, which has the bigger userbase. Some exceptions: - Growing weed - there’s [email protected] [/c/[email protected]] [https://no.lastname.nz/c/trees] - Outdoors - there’s [email protected] [/c/[email protected]] [https://no.lastname.nz/c/outdoors] - Mocking outselves - this might be better in [email protected] [/c/[email protected]] [https://lemmy.nz/c/offtopic] I’m also not sure we have the population to support a Hamilton community. Originally the idea was anyone in the top half of the North Island could use [email protected] [/c/[email protected]] [https://lemmy.nz/c/auckland], anyone in the bottom half could use [email protected] [/c/[email protected]] [https://lemmy.nz/c/wellington], and then we had [email protected] [/c/[email protected]] [https://lemmy.nz/c/southisland]. We intended to split communities as they got too big, which I don’t think has happened, especially since we have a comment about wanting more regional content. I also think people should feel comfortable posting things to the [email protected] [/c/[email protected]] [https://lemmy.nz/c/newzealand] community if they don’t fit in another community, even if it’s not relevant to all of NZ. Others may have a different view, but I would be wary of fragmenting the users across too many communities. What are your thoughts on the Lemmy.nz [http://Lemmy.nz] post and comment language options? The options here were: - I don’t use this feature and don’t have an opinion. - We should stick to these three languages, as it makes it easier to find the language I want - We shouldn’t limit the languages, all should be available. - We should use a small list of languages, but I would like us to add ___. I have shortened them in the graphs so they fit. Pie graph of language preferences [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/c367da04-2381-47ac-b5f1-d2ee6348389f.png] ::: spoiler Bar graph Bar graph of language preferences [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/3c7e7f57-b5f7-4713-b9fe-0477f2e93fca.png] ::: We had some comments as well. One user mentioned Māori would never be used, I’d counter argue that it’s weirder for an NZ instance to actively not allow it than it is to have it as an option. Someone mentioned they didn’t know it was an option. On the website, there is a dropdown box under the box where you write your post or comment. If you use an app this could be in a different place. There are plans to have Lemmy auto-fill this in future. One comment saying NZ Sign Language isn’t an option, and we should support it as it’s an official national language. Unfortunately Lemmy doesn’t support sign languages at this time, so we will have to try to think of another way users can communicate non-audibly. If anyone has any suggestions, I’m all ears. One comment asking for Cantonese, and another saying we should add pacific languages. I don’t have any reason not to do this so will look at adding these. One person said voting should help decide as people would upvote content they can read - unfortunately you can’t see content for languages you haven’t selected, and currently Lemmy.nz [http://Lemmy.nz] doesn’t let you select languages outside the two current options. We would have to open up to all languages to allow this, which makes it harder to select one you are looking for as the list is huge. This was one reason for asking this question, to see if there were any other languages people wanted to read but couldn’t. Do you have any other feedback about lemmy.nz [http://lemmy.nz], this survey, or anything else? I’ve grouped the feedback into generic answers. “I don’t know what’s happening” encompasses answers from (paraphrased) “I’m new and not sure what to think of Lemmy” through to “I’ve been here a year and still don’t understand how it all works”. Graph of feedback groups. A bit over a half "Thanks Dave", a bit over a quarter "Lemmy.nz is awesome" and a fifth "I don't know what's happening [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/65cb56c3-91af-4ae4-b889-20d8ed11aa10.png] ::: spoiler Bar graph Graph of feedback groups. A bit over a half "Thanks Dave", a bit over a quarter "Lemmy.nz is awesome" and a fifth "I don't know what's happening" [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/56e5afe2-4fbd-42b8-92bd-228d73f632f6.png] ::: Are you happy for your responses to be released in a public data set? We had 52 respondents happy to have their responses released publicly, and a further user marked as “Other” that was happy to have their data included with some parts redacted. Please let me know if you are interested in doing some analysis on these results. I wanted to preemptively collect consent but I’ll only release the data if someone is actually interested in doing some analysis. Pie graph of those happy for data to be released publically [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/37d8cf1e-5fbe-46c9-bf76-682f56ff3b86.png] ::: spoiler Bar graph Bar graph of those happy for data to be released publically [https://lemmy.nz/pictrs/image/e1cef1d6-d270-4a34-b003-b37ba1471c43.png] ::: ## Final comments Thanks to everyone for filling in the survey, and bearing with me as I wrote up the results. I had thought I’d get to do more analysis on subgroups, but you get quite small groups when you do that and so it’s hard to draw conclusions from. If anyone has ideas for further analysis, leave a comment!

Cool stuff! Very extensive explanation of the results, thank you for that
I had hoped to do more, but with 69 responses, by the time you try to work out what proportion of people in Auckland are studying vs Wellington or that sort of thing, you don’t have many people in the subgroups so the margin of error can be 50% or more!
Did you do the graphs in python?
I did! Thanks for the example, everything was based on that 🙂
Well done, the graphs look great.

Haha they look like your example, so I guess you’re patting yourself on the back? 😆

It was pretty cool to learn how to do this in python. I guess next up is learning how to do it without having to pivot table them then copy the names and values into the code one by one to make the graph 🥲

Yep, there are ways to do this with importing the dataset into pandas and manipulating it right there; then spitting the graphs out.
Maybe I’ll give that a go for next year’s census 🙂
Sounds like a plan

Thanks this is an interesting read. Probably unsurprising the strong technical job bias and the demographics that goes along with that.

The spoiler tag hides the text of the bar graph but not the actual image!

In my experience in IT, there are a huge range of ethnicities! So I was expecting a much wider range.

Which app are you using? In a browser it seems to work. Our top three mobile methods were Voyager, mobile website, and Jerboa, and the spoiler tags seem to work (mostly) fine in those!

Do you not get a user-agent like tag in the lemmy logs which tells you who’s connecting with which client?

Sure! But it doesn’t tie a specific userame to a specific client. And federated services are mostly bot chatter between servers to sends posts and the actions for users on other instances. And between that are the pings from apps and frontends to check for notifications and that sort of things. Then to work out proportions I’ve gotta somehow identify which requests are all from one user then only count them once, and of course the same user can use different apps. Could I use the logs to check the apps people are using? Sure.

But it’s easier to just ask people.

Sigh… no it was user error. I happened to click the spoiler tags on a place were there were sequential bar charts (I was expecting pie/bar) so the bar chart ‘not hiding’ was actually just the next one in the sequence appearing.
Haha nice! There were some things that didn’t really make sense to show as a pie chart so they don’t have one. Probably my fault for mentioning spoiler tags might not work - if I hadn’t mentioned it you might not have been expecting it 😆.

This is really cool, thank you for running it!

Going through it now to look at the results :)

edit: I like the improvements you made, such as the questions that were broken down to be more informative

I realise I didn’t write it here, but have talked a lot in the past about trying to stick with the Lemmy.ca questions for comparison purposes, but I tried to make the changes you suggested for next time in your results post.

I thought it was really cool that you were running an instance census and ever since I saw it have been intending to run one here, but it took me a while to get around to it.

Are you aware of any other instances doing something similar?

I think I saw in another comment about it the question choice, and I agree it was a good call

I thought it was really cool that you were running an instance census and ever since I saw it have been intending to run one here, but it took me a while to get around to it.

I was looking forward to it!

I didn’t remember any other instances off the top of my head, but I checked the post and saw that @[email protected] left a comment about doing it on aussie.zone

Maybe around November, we can check in again to see if other instances want to help brainstorm questions? That would give instances a chance to share ideas and use similar questions, and ultimately each instance is free to run the census as they see fit

RESULTS - 2023 Instance Census for lemmy.ca - Lemmy.ca

Thank you to everyone who took the time to fill out the census! This was an exciting year, and for a lot of users it was their first year on lemmy.ca [http://lemmy.ca] (and the fediverse in general). For this census, the questions were more open ended, and it ended up being much harder to do data cleaning and analysis. However, it worked well as the first census because it gave us insight into what we might want to do differently in the future. Some images may be hard to read, so please open them in a new tab to see them in full size. — The turnout was good, with 531 total responses in the 1 week that the census was open. That made up around 8% of the ~6500 total users on lemmy.ca [http://lemmy.ca], which feels like a nice sample size for some fun analysis. To start off, here is a chart of the responses over time: c0 [https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/dfc49da7-afc7-4a0a-b23e-eb2d9be59b6e.png] This one is pretty self explanatory, so moving on to the actual results! — — ## Section 1: Where is everyone? Question 1.1: Where are you from? This question was broken down into a few parts. Most users (~87%) are from Canada: c1.1a [https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/f15169b8-1050-4368-bf53-fbacdd6a7d16.png] Next we can see which province and territories are represented (sorted by the number of responses): c1.1b [https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/9f90d863-7b63-4c5d-9cb9-f383e5f897b7.png] If we compare to the population of Canada [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_of_Canada_by_province_and_territory], this instance is somewhat consistent with the population distribution with some exceptions (if someone does a proper comparison, please share it! ). We have users from every province and territory, with the exception of Northwest Territories. The NWT community [https://lemmy.ca/c/nwt] does have subscribers, so hopefully by next year we should have a response from there as well. Next we can see where the users from the rest of the world are from (sorted by the number of responses): c1.1c [https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/d276505d-5a61-476d-a042-73700b41650c.png] Thanks for spending time on lemmy.ca [http://lemmy.ca] everyone! — Question 1.2: How big is your community? A handful of users (13) entered “suburban” as a custom response, so that could be something to add in the future: c1.2 [https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/172a53ca-5612-4034-bd87-2240e763158c.png] However, what’s interesting is that our results are very similar to the proportions reported by Statistics Canada [https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/220209/g-a003-eng.htm] for the 2021 Canadian census. We had 82.8% urban, 14.7% rural, and 2.4% other, while the 2021 Canadian census reported ~82.15% urban and ~17.8% rural (source [https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2021/as-sa/98-200-x/2021002/98-200-x2021002-eng.cfm]). — Question 1.3: In your opinion, what is the quality of your internet connection? c1.3 [https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/fdd3d9f3-96fe-4729-8054-ad03f5d615cd.png] To help those that don’t have excellent internet, you can do small things like reducing the size of images before uploading them. — — ## Section 2: Who are you? Question 2.1: What age range do you fall into? There was a lot of interest in seeing the results for this question: c2.1 [https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/b6dd1332-9c34-4ce1-90fa-d9228b171ed6.png] We can see a nice curve, with a peak around 30-39. So the average age on Lemmy is likely a bit older than other social media platforms, but there’s a good spread nonetheless. — Question 2.2: Ethnicity? This was one of the questions that I couldn’t analyze the way I was originally planning to. While allowing for multiple responses and user submissions allowed for more accurate self-identified responses, it made it difficult to visualize the data in a meaningful way. This data deserves a more in depth analysis, but for now I opted to create a word cloud so we could get a sense of what the responses were like. c2.2 [https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/be34816c-ef9b-4b0b-a988-38c4c6d162ca.png] > NOTE: For this question and others that used a word cloud, I used this project to generate the results locally [https://github.com/amueller/word_cloud]. See the note at the bottom on potential bias and misleading results. The command I used for this graphic: bash wordcloud_cli --text text.txt --imagefile wordcloud.png --prefer_horizontal 1 --width 720 --margin 10 --height 400 --colormask colormask.jpeg --random_state 5 --relative_scaling 0.4 — Question 2.3: What is your gender identity? With this question, we can see that a large proportion of users identify as ‘Man’ (441), followed by ‘Woman’ (32), ‘Non-Binary’ (25), ‘Genderfluid’ (3), and the remaining responses were custom responses (1). c2.3 [https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/51142599-8817-4c27-b0b1-50825755980c.png] This is something that could use more analysis and comparison as the instance continues to grow. — Question 2.4: Are you someone with trans experience (meaning your gender identity does not align with your sex assigned at birth)? In case it is hard to see from the graph, the breakdown was ‘No’ (472 | 93.8%), ‘Yes’ (28 | 5.3%), and the rest of the responses were custom responses (4 | 0.9%). c2.4 [https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/db8f7f29-4b29-4844-b801-97af104adbab.png] You can see Canadian census data for ‘Sex at birth and gender’ here: https://www.statcan.gc.ca/en/census/census-engagement/community-supporter/sex-birth-gender [https://www.statcan.gc.ca/en/census/census-engagement/community-supporter/sex-birth-gender] — Question 2.5: How do you identify? Similar to the other question above, this question allowed for multiple responses and user submissions, so it was difficult to visualize the data in a meaningful way. c2.5 [https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/39ba8b9d-9758-439e-8e13-f15ef0c83ca8.png] See the note at the bottom on potential bias and misleading results. The command I used for this graphic: bash wordcloud_cli --text text.txt --imagefile wordcloud.png --prefer_horizontal 1 --width 720 --margin 10 --height 400 --colormask colormask.jpeg --random_state 6 --relative_scaling 0.55 — Question 2.6: Disability Status (optional) As this was an optional question with free responses and a small number of responses overall, I opted to manually clean the results and list out details from the responses. Hopefully this is still useful while also respecting the privacy of the respondents. - “ADHD” - “anxiety” - “ASD/autism” - “AuDHD” - “bipolar disorder” - “BPD” - “colorblind (protanomaly)” - “depression” - “difficulty processing information” - “fibromyalgia” - “health decline due to age/life experiences” - “learning disability” - “neurodivergence” - “partial deafness” - “PTSD” - “sensory issues” - “struggles with mental health” - “vascular Ehlers-Danlos syndrome” — Question 2.7: Educational Background For this question, multiselect really didn’t make sense. Some users included everything, and others picked their highest level of education. Instead, I manually cleaned all the results to answer “What is your highest level of education?”. Other details that aren’t captured in the graph include entries that highlighted that the program was in progress, or that they dropped out. With that in mind, I had to make some choices about how to clean the data, and my choices may not reflect the original intent of the respondents. Next time should be better, as we can split this into a few questions: - Highest level of education achieved - School is in progress? We could keep the multiselect option since ‘highest level of education’ doesn’t get the full picture. We could also add “CÉGEP diploma”, “College diploma”, and “Other degree/diploma” as options. c2.7 [https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/c572f675-7af4-48be-b84b-acc1e4466308.png] Here are the raw counts for each of the original options: - No formal education 8 - Secondary School 93 - Trade/Vocational Training 52 - Some College/University (no degree) 120 - Associate Degree 42 - Bachelor’s Degree 223 - Master’s Degree 55 - Professional Degree (MD, JD, MBA) 10 - Doctorate (PhD) 19 — Question 2.8: Employment Status We got a few custom responses, including ‘active duty military’, ‘disability’, etc. Those were included in the ‘other’ category, and we could add those options in the future. c2.8 [https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/7e74bd87-b28b-41d1-be46-e1110161c05d.png] The percentages are as follows: - Employed Full-time: ~70.8% - Employed Part-time: ~4.8% - Self-Employed: ~7.1% - Unemployed: ~6.7% - Student: ~6.7% - Homemaker: ~0.4% - Retired: ~2.5% - Other: ~1.0% — Question 2.9: Field of Work This question was… a mess to try and clean and display. I tried to collapse as many similar responses as I could, but it felt like I was making more mistakes than I was fixing: c2.9 [https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/c612dea0-2c7f-4534-a6ac-13f606bac180.png] The command I used for this graphic: bash wordcloud_cli --text text.txt --imagefile wordcloud.png --prefer_horizontal 1 --width 720 --margin 10 --height 400 --colormask colormask.jpeg --random_state 150 --relative_scaling 0.35 See the note at the bottom on potential bias and misleading results. — — ## Section 3: Instance Usage Question 3.1: Approximately how many lemmy.ca [http://lemmy.ca] communities do you participate in? c3.1 [https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/a6bb0474-236d-476d-b04f-1a13442c0022.png] — Question 3.2: If you moderate any communities on lemmy.ca [http://lemmy.ca], how many do you moderate? c3.2 [https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/506e070e-9231-4e64-b161-35c88c9e1e23.png] This one should be a number entry in the future. — Question 3.4: What community do you want to see on lemmy.ca [http://lemmy.ca]? (optional) Personal information was cut out and responses were split into multiple lines as appropriate. If I accidentally cut your response or you want to add something now, please comment below! ::: spoiler List of Requests - amigurumi - Analog photography - anything urbanism, climate change, waste reduction/RE use etc related would be nice to have more activity - Apple - Birds, lots of birds - Ottawa - Author and book promotion help - Batman - DC comics - bicycles - binge eating disorder - buildapcsales - Canadian and local news - Canadian Deals (software and other) - Celeste community - Chess - Coffee - Communities focued on discusison of specific video games, especially Paradox games and From The Depths - fiction-writing and sharing communities - dota2 - edmonton - EMS - Fibromyalgia or chronic illness communities - Fine arts related - First Nations-based communities - French Canadian content - FrugalCanada - Furry - gameboy verification. Those guyz were awesome and hard workers - gaming sites - more healthcare communities - Hockey - Hockey is a bit dead IMO - HumansBeingBros - I think you should leave - Kamloops local - knitting and similar things (crafts, etc.) - Less with more. The main issue with federation is that there are several communities that cover the same topic. So you end up with fractured groups, or you participate in several communities that all have the same posts. - Literary - Loseit - Maple Leafs - Montreal - More craft/art based communities - more diverse communities - movies - nicevancouver - Non-sided political discussion - nursing - personal finance canada - personal finance canada - plant and mineral identification communities - poodles - printsf - [email protected] [[email protected]] - Quake Champions - reading and/or viewing clubs, esp. for lesser known gems - Reptiles! - rupaulsdragrace (and variations) - sasswitches - Sleep apnea - Snowboarding - snowboarding - Something link with cybersecurity and retro gaming - Stocks - superstonk - Survivor - Thoughtful conversation, although not very balanced currently. - Unsolved mysteries - Vancouver - Vancouver - Various fantasy literature ones - [email protected] [[email protected]] - Wallpapers or art curation - Wearable/smart_rings - What is this thing - witchesvspatriarchy - worldnews ::: While we will also look into these communities, you are free to (and encouraged) to look through this list and get them going 🚀 — Question 3.5: On average, how much time do you spend on Lemmy each day? c3.5 [https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/a8a4feb0-ec35-4a0a-a64b-6b20f29308e5.png] For the 28 people that said “>21 hours”, here is a video of a baby sea otter taking a snooze (Joey from Vancouver Aquarium). While we love to have you here, feel free to use this video as you take a break and get some rest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBVT8HWEahM [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBVT8HWEahM] — Question 3.6: How do you access Lemmy most often? c3.6 [https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/3e3a2eb0-2891-4ede-b461-dad711bffbb0.png] In case it is hard to see from the graph, the breakdown was ‘Desktop’ (68 | 13.0%) and ‘Mobile’ (457 | 87.0%). Not listed here were the custom responses: - 3 submissions for “Tablet” - 3 submissions for “Both about equally” (worded in different ways) Both of these could be added as options in the future. — Question 3.7: On desktop, which interfaces do you use? The default interface was the most popular, but each interface was preferred by some number of users. c3.7 [https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/56baeb94-7601-48c4-a1d7-50540eca3dc1.png] — Question 3.8: On mobile, which OS do you use? c3.8 [https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/f9930174-7fcb-4e88-a759-c4b2fcc6cc77.png] Not listed here were: - 1 submission for “GrapheneOS” - 1 submission for “Debian” - 1 submission for “None” We could clarify these options in the future. — Question 3.9: On mobile, which app(s) do you use? These options were submitted by users, and I included them in the graph: Avelon, Artic, Lemmios, Lemmur, Bean. c3.9 [https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/a9a5f776-6b10-4839-9284-84041c36576c.png] Not listed in the graph were: - 22 submissions for “Web Browser” (worded in different ways) - 4 submissions for “None” All of these could be added as options in the future. There were also comments about the lack of tablet apps, so if you’re an app developer, this could be something to take a peek at 👀 — Question 3.10: If you primarily access lemmy.ca [http://lemmy.ca] through different Lemmy/Kbin instance, please list it below (optional) Thanks for stopping by 😊, here is the list: - beehaw.org [http://beehaw.org] (4) - bookwormstory.social (1) - lemmy.dbzer0.com [http://lemmy.dbzer0.com] (1) - lemm.ee [http://lemm.ee] (2) - lemmy.ca [http://lemmy.ca] (1?) - Lemmy.ml [http://Lemmy.ml] (1) - lemmy.dnet.social (1) - lemmy.world (9) - kbin.social (1) - sh.itjust.works (3) - sopuli.xyz (1) - startrek.website (1) — Question 3.11: What other Fediverse services do you use? This one was sneakily edited to add a “none” option after a few responses came in. These were custom responses which I added to the graph: Matrix, Owncast, Hubzilla, Diaspora, GNU Social, Funkwhale, GoToSocial, Soapbox, Wordpress, pump.io. c3.11 [https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/245e4e2e-51fa-4297-b4f6-0898b3addc09.png] — # Section 4 Question 4.1: First, what’s your favourite dessert? Wow this one took a while to go through. Here are some responses I collected while cleaning (sorry if I lost yours before thinking to do this): > - Anything that has Reese peanut butter cups/pieces in it. Reese is love. Reese is life. > - brownies although I just had some gingerbread men that were pretty bussin > - hard to say. just made some very tasty eggnog cinnamon rolls though > - Either jello formed from the tears of my enemies, or tiramisu. (No I don’t have enemies really, I just thought it just sounded cool.) > - Pie. All of the pies. Except Meringue which is the devil’s dessert topping. > - Lemmings > - The Sahara (I always mix these up) > - chocolate-stuffed chocolate topped with chocolate with a side of chocolate paired with hot chocolate After cleaning the data, and consolidating similar responses into a format that could easily be searched, I can confidently say that the most popular dessert out of 527 entries was… > # ICE CREAM 🍦 kind of… There were 94 entries for different flavours of ice cream, and 97 total entries for other desserts that included ice cream. This doesn’t even include the entries for things like gelato, frozen yogurt, etc. - The most popular type was just ice cream with 54 entries, second to which was mint chocolate chip with 5 entries (with many other flavours having 3-4) The closest other category was cake, which had 42 entries not including cheesecake, and 96 entries that included the word cake (including cheesecake). - The most popular type of cake was chocolate cake, with 11 entries. Another close category was pie, with 85 entries for different kinds of pie (not including similar foods such as tarts, crumbles, etc.) - The most popular pie entries were pie with 17 entries, apple pie with 15 entries, pumpkin pie with 12 entries (with one specific to the Costco kind), key lime pie with 10 entries, pecan pie with 8 entries, and a few others. Some other popular desserts/categories included: - apple category: 25 entries - brownies: 10 entries - chocolate category: 55 entries - cookies: 15 entries - crème brûlée: 13 entries - fresh fruit category: 9 entries - nanaimo bars: 11 entries - tiramisu: 23 entries Some unique desserts included: affogato, baklava, beaver tails, blondies, gobi, gajar halwa, mochi, jalebi, knafeh, malassada, mango sticky rice, natas do ceu, pavlova, saskatoon berry pie, pouding chômeur, sachertorte, stroopwafel, vacherin, vermicelles, and vinarterta. (If you think your entry should be here, send me a message 😄) Even a lot of the joke entries had repeats, with 4 entries along the lines of just desserts, 2 entries for your mom, 2 entries for revenge etc. Additionally, 19 entries did not select anything, with 8 specifying that they couldn’t pick, and 3 specifying that they did not like desserts. Here is the word cloud (the generator ran into a bug that I couldn’t fix where a lot of entries are duplicated, this will be swapped out when I can fix it): [https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/f685a727-077e-4f73-9ef3-0a6c1e10c7ff.png] The command I used for this graphic: bash wordcloud_cli --text text.txt --imagefile wordcloud.png --prefer_horizontal 1 --width 720 --margin 10 --height 400 --colormask colormask.jpeg --random_state 5 --relative_scaling 0.5 — Question 4.2: Do you have any other feedback for us? (optional) We recieved so many kind words, thank you so much for taking the time to share them! ❤️❤️❤️ In addition to that, here are some other areas with questions, comments and feedback. Organization Related - when we will start accepting donations, and many comments about wanting to donate - the status of the non-profit registration - possiblity of setting up as a co-op Technical - upgrade to 0.19 was a bit bumpy (but otherwise good) - a few comments about not being able to log in since 0.19 (please try logging out and back in, it should fix it) - The subscribed feed is preferred, as users may not want the experience to be Canada-focused - (census specific): “None” should be an option as it is different from “skip” - a few users didn’t know about the other frontends, so we could do a better job of promoting them Communities and Content - More French content / usage - looking for more guidance on how to grow the communities and build engagement, and other non-monetary ways to help - local communities could have more informal discussion, as they are currently mostly news articles Thank you everyone and stay tuned for the next census! 🎉 — # Appendix / Other Notes POTENTIAL BIAS / MISLEADING RESULTS: Word Clouds > I had trouble with the word size variability, and I used the relative scaling option to try and make the word cloud more useful and representative while still being readable. This is based on my perception of the raw data, and while I did my best to minimize bias, I may have introduced some. If you have any suggestions for how to improve this in future years, please comment below! > > People filled out the census with so much care and detail and these sections deserve nice visualizations. Word clouds are not good mediums for conveying information, so please keep all that in mind when looking at these results.

Yes, that would be good! I think each instance will have questions relevant only to that instance, but it would be good to get a good core set of questions that everyone can use the same wording for and compare against other instance results.
Yup I wanted aussie.zone to run one. @[email protected] what do you think about making an instance census like this one and the lemmy.ca one?
@lodion - Aussie Zone

I also have backup accounts on these instances: https://beehaw.org/u/lodion [https://beehaw.org/u/lodion] https://sh.itjust.works/u/lodion [https://sh.itjust.works/u/lodion] https://lemmy.world/u/lodion [https://lemmy.world/u/lodion] https://lemm.ee/u/lodion [https://lemm.ee/u/lodion] https://reddthat.com/u/lodion [https://reddthat.com/u/lodion]

I’m happy for someone to run one, but don’t have time to run it myself.
K. I might make one. What software should I use for polling? Strawpoll, Microsoft and google polls are decent.

@[email protected] great write up.

When you say ‘pretty white bunch’ you’re not wrong, a little surprising. I suspect that it would be true to say “Straight White Male” is the norm.

Mocking outselves - this might be better in [email protected]

I have a “Average NZ” That you are very welcome to mock ourselves on if [email protected] doesn’t seem to fit

NZ Sign Language … I’m all ears.

I see what you did there

I somehow think it would have very easy to [semi] ID me through those questions. I was in the in some of the smaller groupings of a few of the questions. I’m surprised at some of the small group size on some of the answers.

Average New Zealand - No Last Name Needed

Average photos and depictions of New Zealand

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: [email protected]

I suspect that it would be true to say “Straight White Male” is the norm.

It’s the most common, but it’s certainly not the only group. We are a lot less straight than average, for example. Having worked in IT there are people from almost every culture, and NZ European is underrepresented (partly because we have to find the skills from elsewhere). I’m curious what makes Lemmy such a technical bunch of IT workers but we’ve somehow only attracted the white ones.

I have a “Average NZ” That you are very welcome to mock ourselves on if [email protected] doesn’t seem to fit

Oh, I forgot about this one! I have added it to the NZ community list post.

I’m surprised at some of the small group size on some of the answers.

We got 69 responses, which is pretty good considering our userbase, but as soon as we try to break people into groups there aren’t many in each group.

Thanks Dave, interesting stats!

As much as I’d love a diynz and Hamilton community here, I don’t think we have enough regular posters sadly. Sorry to say I’m also guilty of not contributing much lately

Yeah I think we need a bigger userbase before we can justify splitting out these things.

Dave, you’re a legend!

I propose a massive dessert competition, however we’ll probably need to start regionally and bubble up the winners, I reckon (but any user should be allowed to cone and vote).

Not sure how we handle the home made vs bought scenario for ice creams, cheesecake and so on (what animal would buy crumble, is it even a thing?)

Roll on diabetes!

Could do some sort of sudden death competition? Pair up all the options, winners go to the next round, losers are knocked out.

I have no idea if store bought crumble is a thing, it sounds awful 😆

Are you proposing everyone makes and eat each dessert to fairly rank them?

I have no idea what I’m proposing, sadly - I just want all of you fuckers to make me dessert!

(and I’m happy to put in an apple and tamarillo crumble)

Hmm some sort of secret Santa where we all post each other deserts we made? Just remember, it’s gotta be packaged to survive a 2m drop (and the occasional dropkick), plus no refrigeration, so that might limit which desserts we can do.

That really narrows it down! I reckon that’s why we start regionally. Have the cities or districts scrap it out (fully biased self judging and everything,I guess)

I don’t want to wimp out, cos it sounds fun but my commitment phobia is kicking in

It does sound good but I’m also not keen on organising 😆
You already do heaps keeping this ship afloat…
So you’re saying just one more thing shouldn’t be a problem?
I’m too late to contribute to the census but I’d like to reserve a slice of your dessert please.

Sounds rad - but we should do a trade off, like 10 paces or something…

Are you near Wellington?

I can see it on a good day, I’m in Marlborough. Maybe a trebuchet would help?

A dessert trebuchet, you say? Sounds fantastic!

However for the distances involved, I’d probably need something actively driven like a catapult rather than good old gravity-fed trebuchet… Still, sounds like a splendid day making one hell of a mess!

Or we could just mail stuff. I’m working on a mousse that would fit great into a courier bag!

That’s great work Dave,

I was using Memmy, but this long post wouldn’t display properly so I went to a browser to read it and found the “which app” question that shows Voyager as most popular, a quick download and that’s what I’m on now, and it works great.

Nice! Voyager started as a web frontend, and it was one of the first alternative frontends we hosted (when it was called wefwef). If you’re ever without your app you can get to it at voyager.lemmy.nz

It works on desktop but it’s a bit of an odd experience, best for mobile I think.

Voyager for Lemmy

Voyager is a beautiful mobile web client for Lemmy. Enjoy a seamless experience browsing the fediverse.

This is really interesting, thanks Dave! (and everyone else who responded)
The graphs are really cool to look at!
Thanks! They were done in python using a script that someone else gave me, so I can’t take credit for them 🙂