I think a lot of time when the Torment Nexus thing is brought up, people are getting the arrow of causality the wrong way around. It's not that necessarily that Bobby Techbro read "Don't Create the Torment Nexus" and was inspired to make one, even if that's what the marketing tries to sell it as.

No I think that's not giving scifi authors the proper respect as futurists. They looked at how things were going and thought "man, this might lead to a Torment Nexus" and then wrote a story about that.

@foone This is definitely true.

Though also, if people are naming their companies things like "Soylent" and "Palantir", they do seem to be somewhat influenced by fiction. And getting the wrong message.

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Yeah I think I agree that it can work in a circular way, like you're describing.

Fair warning, it's excruciating to listen to, but a couple years ago a "green cryptocurrency" podcast invited Kim Stanley Robinson on to talk about his book The Ministry for the Future - and well, let's just say that our boy Stan tried his damnedest:

https://m.soundcloud.com/planetaryregeneration/ep-42-kim-stanley-robinson-the-ministry-for-the-future

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