JaecJun 28, 2024
The Verge
Microsoft’s AI boss thinks it’s perfectly OK to steal content if it’s on the open web https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/28/24188391/microsoft-ai-suleyman-social-contract-freeware
Microsoft’s AI boss thinks it’s perfectly okay to steal content if it’s on the open web

Mustafa Suleyman, CEO of Microsoft AI, has a curious idea about how copyright works. He incorrectly claimed the moment you publish anything on the open web, it becomes “freeware” that anyone can freely copy and use.

The Verge
Jun 28, 2024 at 9:16pmBuffer
Show thread🪬🍄🌈🎮💻🚲🥓🎃💀🏴🛻♓🧿Jun 28, 2024
@verge did you invent all the words you just used, or did you "steal" them from authors you read in the past?
Show threadGlitchyZorua Jun 28, 2024

@verge reward for dumbass of the year:

🏆 (make in plastic)

Show threadgenstar.serviceJun 28, 2024
@GlitchyZorua @verge (better make it in AIbroskillium)
Show threadGlitchyZorua Jun 28, 2024

@Genstar @verge A-AIbroskillium?

What's...

Show threadoscarfalconJun 28, 2024

@verge I'll Say it, loud and clear:

"FUCK THIS GUY AND MICROSOFT!".

Jeez!

Show threadHm… I’m skepticalJun 28, 2024
@verge AI sure makes a lot of smart people say stupid things
Show threadhttps://bsky.halvasweb.spaceJun 28, 2024

@verge wow i agree actually

that's why i stole every microsoft product i have ever used

Show threadspykeJun 28, 2024
@verge That's not the best wording by the Microsoft's employee. But from the text of the article I've got an impression that AI somehow contains copies of your articles. Some program "scrapes a particular website" and copies its content into an AI. That's not how it works. There's no algorithm that makes collages out of copied sentences. If there's no copy, what are you trying to apply the copyright law to? That is the difference between the AI before and the AI emerged a couple of years ago.
Show threadAlan NorbauerJun 28, 2024
@spyke @verge LLMs can reproduce copyrighted works, verbatim. To say “there is no copy” is just sophistry.
Show threadspykeJun 28, 2024
@alannorbauer @verge Can they? Or they can reproduce a couple of quotes from the entire article while the rest is its own explanation? Same as humans. Stable Diffusion is like 6 GB in size, but trained on *terabytes* of images. Where did the remaining hundreds of gigabytes go? Clicking "compress into a zip file" doesn't produce such miracles.
Show threadAlan NorbauerJun 28, 2024

@spyke @verge Yes, they can reproduce copyrighted works, verbatim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Large_language_models_and_copyright

See section “Is LLM output capable of violating copyright law?”

Wikipedia:Large language models and copyright - Wikipedia

Show threadspykeJun 29, 2024
@alannorbauer @verge If you open your own link, it states "snippets" and "close paraphrases". You can't get the entire thing it saw out of AI. It doesn't exist there physically. Your "reproduce" is vague. Is a Samsung Galaxy S a copy of an iPhone? Is a Verge article a copy of another article if they look similar? The law says no. And AI never copied the text to "change" it to look different. There is no miracle that compresses the entire internet into 10GB. You can't change physics.
Show threadAlan NorbauerJun 29, 2024
@spyke @verge You’re not reading or quoting from the section I referenced which has chatgpt directly quote the verbatim lyrics of a copyrighted song, which is exactly what you’re saying it can’t do. Additionally, you are asserting that it can’t do that because of the laws of physics, when all you have to do is ask chatgpt and you’d see it absolutely can reproduce works verbatim. You’re not letting reality contradict you for some reason. Will this screenshot help?
Show threadspykeJun 29, 2024
@alannorbauer @verge Now you can finally explain how this happens if the model is only a couple of gigabytes in size. Another one not that successful:
Show threadJared White (ResistanceNet ✊)Jun 29, 2024

@spyke @verge Ahem.

https://www.404media.co/listen-to-the-ai-generated-ripoff-songs-that-got-udio-and-suno-sued/

Listen to the AI-Generated Ripoff Songs That Got Udio and Suno Sued

The record industry has filed a list of thousands of songs it believes have been scraped without permission, and has recreated versions of famous songs using Udio and Suno.

404 Media
Show threadInuyashatoastJun 28, 2024
@verge yeahhhh well listen... This doesn't work like that..
Show threadJimmothy BagginsJun 28, 2024
@verge then let’s steal windows and Xbox games. It’s on the web !
Show threadstradicatJun 29, 2024
@verge "Boo this man! BOOOOOOOOOOO!"
Show threadMy camera shoots fascistsJun 29, 2024

@verge

This man has an address where we could protest.

He deserves a pie in the face every time he appears on stage.

Every time he tries to eat in a restaurant, someone should take food directly off his plate and eat it in front of him. "Oh, you don't mind if I ingest something of yours, do you, motherfucker?"

The internet is not dying. It's being killed by people with names and addresses.

(Yeah, also, we need really fucking brutal regulation of these bastards, mostly making their whole business model illegal, with guillotine punishments.)