The House just passed a cruel bill banning using funds to cite data on Palestinians killed by Israel. And people are defending this barbaric House bill by claiming, “the prohibition is only from citing death figures from Hamas” but allows tolls from other groups.
WHAT OTHER GROUPS?
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Israel has banned all western journalists, exiled domestic journalists, killed 100+ Palestinian journalists, kills aid workers, & bombs hospitals. Gaza Health Ministry is the only data set we have and it’s been affirmed reliable by the UN, US State Dept, & even by Israeli Intel. And now even this one reliable source of data on murdered Palestinians is being banned.
The tenth stage of genocide is denial. This is what genocide denial looks like & shame on every politician who voted for it.
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i don't like netanyahu and i don't like a bunch of things but do you believe the israeli government has a policy of wiping out an ethnicity? i believe the misattribution of the term is more problematic than it is helpful. i think you can more effectively help your own goals without applying a term that doesn't fit. as awesomely righteous as it may feel to use.
sorry man i'm over here trying to get biden reelected and this is a problem.
@reallywhy if you're objecting to the term "genocide", then I encourage you to read the UN definition of the word.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_Convention
Also, read about the different stages of genocide, and its precursors, such as dehumanizing language.
@reallywhy @QasimRashid if you're not aware of plentiful examples of clauses (a), (b), and notably (c) (via starvation), then I recommend you diversify your news sources. Personally, I think the argument over the term is just a distraction, and I call it a "massacre" instead.
FYI the ethnic conflict started long before 1948.
@jamesmarshall @QasimRashid as i said above it's hard to separate out if they are killing because of ethnicity or if they are killing in response to hostility
i see tons of evidence that israel reacts brutally to hostility against it. i think it's a tough case to prove that israel's brutality is against an ethnicity, rather than in response to aggression.
jumping to conclusions doesn't help. inaccurate, incendiary ideas have consequences.
@reallywhy I for one am not jumping to conclusions. I'm considering the word literally and accurately, based on the UN definition and ample, well-documented evidence.
You seem to think the conflict is one-sided. It's not. You ignore the previous brutality and aggression by Israel leading up to October 7. Both hamas and Netanyahu/Likud are ethnically genocidal toward the other side, based on their own words. Neither has ever been interested in peace.
i mean you want me to tell you a third time, i already repeated it, above. it's hard to say it's over ethnicity rather than in response to hostility. there is a 75 year history of aggression to israel, since the day it declared independence. this is a 75 year conflict where one side just won't accept defeat.
@reallywhy I read you the first time. No, it's not hard to say it's over ethnicity, if you listen to the words of Netanyahu, Ben-Gvir, and others. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean the rest of us don't. And like I said, this conflict is a lot older than 75 years. You write of aggression against Israel while ignoring the aggression by Israel. It's not like Israel has been treating Palestinians peacefully. If you were Palestinian, you wouldn't like the way Israel has treated you either.
@reallywhy: it's genocide, it's obviously genocide, and telling people to stop staying it's genocide because it makes it harder to get Biden reelected is epic hypocrisy. I thought the people who support Biden are the ones who believe in telling the truth. Or are we just like MAGA and only tell the truth when it's politically convenient?
I'm 100% voting for Biden and I still 100% oppose his support for genocide.
And I don't argue with genocide deniers, so *plonk*.
Qasim Rashid, Esq.
really? why?
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