Worst part of updating my talk: looking up how fucking many more Starlink satellites there were than last time I gave a version of this talk. 200 more than a month ago. Fuck.

There are now 6,209 Starlinks in orbit, fully 62% of the 10,009 active satellites in orbit.

All of these "fully demisable" Starlinks are planned to burn up and deposit their metal in Earth's atmosphere. I just saw multiple 100-pound pieces of another SpaceX "fully demisable" rocket, so I'm sure it'll be just fine.

In case it's not clear, both of these options are bad.

"Fully demisable" = 29 tons of aluminum per day in the stratosphere/mesosphere just from reentering Starlink sats, ignoring all the rocket bodies required to resupply the constantly-replaced megaconstellation.

And I hope it's obvious why 100 pound pieces of junk dropping from orbit every hour would probably be bad. So hopefully Starlink engineering is better than Crew Dragon trunk engineering?

This is such an incredibly bad situation...

@sundogplanets Honest question: how many tons of aluminium burn up in the form of natural meteors?

It feels to me that bigger problems are:
- Light pollution caused by the sats (but there is also public outreach value in people seeing satellites)
- CO2 emissions of continually manufacturing and launching the sats and rockets (and Starship doesn't make that a lot better).

Multiply that by other companies also launching their own megaconstellations (SpaceX isn't the only game in town)...

@steve I've talked about this a few times. 50ish tons per day, 1% aluminum.

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2024GL109280

@sundogplanets @steve complete layperson here, but what stops some bad actor entity from sending up something designed to take out a huge bunch of sats over a target area most likely to fall into an enemy's territory? Sounds like a nice opening war salvo. Especially if they're prepped for the comms disruptions that follow?
@A2Lintra @sundogplanets
1. The sats are supposed to be "demisable" - i.e. they *should* burn up, not "fall into an enemy's territory".
2. Satellites don't magically deorbit if you "take them out". You just end up with lots of debris in orbits similar to the sat's original orbit. Some of that debris may reenter earlier than it otherwise would, but very unlikely that you could target its reentry with any kind of precision.
@A2Lintra @sundogplanets There are certainly problems with megaconstellations, but the potential for bad actors dropping someone else's sats on an enemy isn't one of them. More likely is bad actors disrupting or intercepting an enemy's communications which are being carried by those sats.