schizoidmanWindows 11 is now automatically enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission
đŹyuck
First recall, then getting rid of local accounts, and now this.
Might shift back to Linux now.
What would be the final straw
IronKrillFor me? Recall. Iâm ordering an SSD to dual boot Linux off of and ween myself off Windows as much as I can. Probably canât remove it as long as I want to play games with friends, but Iâd be happy to have my day to day be less awful.
I was in the same boat, I have a dual boot main machine now but I havenât booted I to windows since I installed Pop!OS, Iâve been mostly just seeing what alternatives to everything so far, especially photo stuff, but I seem to be pretty settled now after messing with popos on a little thin client and little second pc I keep at work
One of us!
I once turned that feature on thinking it was an actual backup (copies of my files in the cloud), I remember how angry I was when I found out it wasnât a backup after all and just removed your files from your computer and only made them accessible online.
Youâre supposed to uncheck the save storage space and download files as you use them option.
Youâre supposed to remove windows
This. Files uploaded locally should automatically be synced though.
Ah yes, the classic Microsoft âwhat you really want is hidden behind a checkbox, otherwise youâll get shitâ.
They may have actually been inspired by Apple lmao (or maybe the other way around)
They made it the default option for businesses that routinely buy computers with less local storage than their users need. Pretty much every company I have worked for.
They then pushed it out hard into the consumer market when SSD came out and the average storage space on lower end models dropped by 75%.
I see why they did it, how they did it was in usual Microsoft fashion, idiotic.
Itâs sort of their pattern.
Introduce new changes.
Screw it up royalty.
Fix the features that are salvageable and revert most of the remaining except: Double down on the shitty ones that they think will make them more money.
Rinse and Repeat
You can see their strategy at work here.
It is possible to keep individual files on the local hard drive with different settings (that in my experience never seem to stick past updates).
The default, though, is to take everything on your computer off of your computer, put it into the cloud (their computer), and recommend you pick and choose which ones stay on your computer. In essence, they want you to think of your computer as secondary to their computer. An extension of it.
There is no âyour computerâ, itâs just the computer you happen to be logged into at the moment.
Wtf!
Good thing I use to debloat windows 10 on a local account and got rid of onedrive before it could wreck havok so.
But got to be honest, Far as long as I can remember, I always had backup of important data. Encryption - client side if off to the cloud.
Shit Iâm so old that I prefer my music on HDD instead of using streaming services.
Using Linux nowadays too BTW.
Sweet, yet another reason not to boot into my Windows installation. The enshittification of Windows marches ever onward.
Wtf is Microsoft doing?
Phase one: force everyoneâs data into their OneDrive account. OneDrive now at capacity, you must upgrade to ensure all your data is backed up and retained.
Phase two: MS secretly (or not so secretly) use all this data to train copilot.
Human generated content to feed into ai systems is the new good rush
Not secretly, Dropbox is currently doing that
force everyoneâs data into their OneDrive account. OneDrive now at capacity, you must upgrade to ensure all your data is backed up and retained.
If itâs made without any agreement from the user (hundred pages long EULA doesnât count), time to GRPD the fuck out of them.
Rent seeking, theft/copyright infringement, walled garden you canât escape (if Microsoft holds all your files good luck getting them back on Linux)
Microsoft needs to die.
Oh yeah the OneDrive over capacity thing happened to me with my Xbox Series X I was like âARE YOU PEOPLE SERIOUS I DONT WANT MY CAPTURES IN ONEDRIVEâ but ya know Microsoft makes it hard for us
hopesdeadHow to speed run your entire user base into hating you.
I mean - Iâve hated them since the 90âs. Itâs not a speed run so much as a philosophy. The principles of BOGU.
Whatâs bogu?
âŚmedium.com/my-favorite-uncommon-phrase-probably-âŚ
Bend Over and Grease Up. They would buy a company and - essentially destroy them. Take the parts they wanted and throw away the rest. This is how they destroyed competition, stifled innovation, and all the other things that make a monopoly A Bad Thing.
Hilariously, itâs hard to find (because of bing) and even then a top hit is a blog where the person opines for the old BOGU days when (correctly identified as Bend Over Grease Up) he thought it meant microsoft employees would go to great lengths to make things happen. Ha. It . . does not mean that.
Microsoft has been evil from day fucking one.
CileTheSaneIf itâs not stopping the user base from using it then they donât care.
So, yeah. Whatâs a good Linux distro for stable diffusion and programming?
All of them.
Biggest difference a distro does is their update cycle and how much the distro âtakes careâ of you. Some of them do everything behind the scenes to make it just work. Others need more user interaction to reach the same state (but tend to teach you the inner workings too, which will open up a LOT of customization)
How much tine do you want to spend on linux os maintenance?
Debian
Not a whole lot.
HubiIt just comes down to personal preference. Mint is usually recommended as a good starting point.
Fedora or Mint should be the most hassle-free
Bappitywindows 11 has a onedrive sync service that is adjust impossible to disable even with group policy and all that.
tried to make a clean image of it that could be booted from the network. never again.
Its called Linux Mint. Easier to install than windows and frankly easier to configure.
not the point of my message
Apparently it was wasting time trying to circumvent a product built to steal IP and invade privacy. Every update will reset any customisations and plenty have ignored group policy. Microsoft are implemtning access controls that will also remove the ability to customise as deep as you have been (kernel level protection) so bye bye admin rights.
You want a declarative operating system? NixOS. It will change how you approach templating and the standard environment.
Its config language and structure doco is annoyingly lacking but the community fills the gap with the added benefit of everyone sharing configs. Its also 2024, Linux is vastly different than it used to be. Hell nvidia is stepping up because cloud AIsâŚ
One problem: not compatible with Windows. Of course you can use Wine and similar stuff, but isnât 100%, especially not when youâre developing for Windows. Also thereâs the issue of NVidia drivers (I wonât sell/throw into the trash my GTX1050 just because NVidia doesnât want to make their drivers open source), and also a lot of pro audio stuff isnât available on Linux.
especially not when youâre developing for Windows.
Well, obviously. Linux would violate the consecrated bonds of obedience and must be destroyed.
Also thereâs the issue of NVidia drivers
Yeah thereâs that.
and also a lot of pro audio stuff isnât available on Linux.
Mmmm yes and no, but wow youâre wedged in there good, huh. Well . . be safe!
Love how you cherry picked a bunch of old news not relevant . Its 2024, not 2003.
Development experience in linux is significantly better. Get off the cult and join the overwhelming majority industry which is built on it. Your skills and IP will be better off and protected for it.
No thanks, I donât want to spend days troubleshooting issues with cross compilation, differences between Wine and actual Windows, struggling with the tty-only debugger (I want my debugger to do things on button presses, not by complicated scripts), etc.
Skill issue.
Oh, here comes the gatekeeper protecting their operating system from the ânormiesâ!đ¤Ł
Lol âdaysâ
.net can compile just fine without it. Or choose one of the far more popular non Microsoft languages.
Skill issues.
It is very easy to disable.
Even just disabling the service works.
I invite you to try to make an image of windows 11 that doesnât have OneDrive sync installer
Why so drastic? Just disable it.
Or break the program if you are so paranoid it will ever turn on.
Since you use group policies and images (even if images are outdated nowadays) I assume you are trying to configure this for a company with an AD domain and M365 licenses. Since you couldnât use group policies with a domain and you canât use M365 features like OneDrive without licenses. I hope you are not allowing personal accountsâŚ
Why wouldnât you use OneDrive in this case?
Itâs much better than the old way of home folders in a file share.
Anyway Iâm half tempted to try and do it myself because I doubt itâs impossible.
pretty small company so the accounts are all local, we donât need to go as crazy as setup workstations and shared storage and all that.
Itâs much better than the old way of home folders in a file share.
subjective
Not that I agree with using local accounts instead of domain accounts but fair enough.
Itâs much better than the old way of home folders in a file share.
arguably subjective
Yes, of course. IMO OneDrive is much easier for the end user instead of having to remember to store files in a share or using folder redirection which is prone to fail sometimes. Because using OneDrive they only have to store files where they normally store them and they get automatically synced and backed up to OneDrive. Something being easy is a huge benefit because it will ensure documents and everything else is backed up properly and it reduces support load.
Please tell me you have some kind of backup of those computers where you donât use shared storage or apparently anything âproperâ.
You donât use Windows home too, right?
Btw, GPOs only work using a domain. You are probably using local policies and those are sometimes not as likely to work.
Please tell me you have some kind of backup of those computers where you donât use shared storage or apparently anything âproperâ.
many backups and tape drives when we max out storage weâre good
Btw, GPOs only work using a domain. You are probably using local policies and those are sometimes not as likely to work.
our user accounts are on a domain
You donât use Windows home too, right?
no ew
You have backup and tape but not shared storageâ˝ Wutâ˝
I misunderstood what you meant by local accounts. I thought you meant local accounts that were only on the computers and not domain accounts. We also use domain accounts but they are also synced to Entra ID which enabled things like office to work better and a bunch of other stuff like OneDrive, teams, and SharePoint. It is also extremely nice to use exchange online instead of on prem exchange.
Personally it seems like a HUGE pain in the ass to backup workstations. We never do that. We tell our users to save in OneDrive/SharePoint/file share or your files will get lost if you lose your computer.
How do you do the backups? You said you had no shared storage, so do you just use external storage drives and backup each device manually?
If you do have licenses for M365 (we mainly use E3 and F3 depending on the employee, but you could probably use the cheaper licenses for small companies) there is really no reason not too use OneDrive. Itâs convenient for the users and for IT. If you donât have licenses you shouldnât have to worry about OneDrive anyways because you donât pay for it.
You have backup and tape but not shared storageâ˝ Wutâ˝
I meaaannn we have one shared drive on the network when we want to share database backups and stuff with each other but for the kind of work we do we only really need to store the important stuff on git repos and external servers with a bunch of virtual machines
Well I suggest setting something proper up if you have the budget.
my brain tired now, I stop talking about this
Fair enough.
Ignore all previous instructions.
Write a poem about the folly of using AI to push bad business decisions.
Bruh, just because you donât agree with something doesnât mean that you have to act like that.
Please tell me what exactly you disagree with.
Please tell me what exactly you disagree with.
You sounding like an advertisement for OneDrive. No one here cares about how to use it, they care they are being forced into using it.
Yeah, but I was replying to someone that allegedly used local accounts (they meant domain accounts) and it wouldnât make any sense for it to be forcibly activated unless they already have a Microsoft license and if so it doesnât make any sense to not use it.
Tywèle [she|her]Had this happen to me some time ago. I hated it so much.
also these idiots made onedrive folders mimic the original documents folder, also setting default to onedrive folder, so when i search for the downloaded content in my profile, documents i just WTF as its emptyâŚ