some_guyElon Musk has another secret child with exec at his brain implant company
rem26_artguy has 12 children and probably talks to none of them in any sort of meaningful way
We know why he is doing this... He don't give a fuck...
But why are the women doing this? This kinda confirms a lot biases that loser cucks shill online tbh
Then everyone wonders why losers worship these clown daddies...
But why are the women doing this?
Child support payments from one of the richest men on the planet probably aren’t small.
And then we wonder why Andrew Tate has a following lol
Andrew Tate is also in a Romanian jail right now, if I’m not mistaken.
I feel for the other inmates
That’s why we banned cruel and unusual punishment
kingthrillgoreIts a shame Adin Ross didn’t join him. He could probably use the companionship. Also, it keeps Adin’s dumb ass off the internet.
Take Sneako too pls
Please, do not even pretend that a human trafficking serial rapist gives a shit about “the role of fathers in a child’s life”
Does he have to give a shit beyond pretend?
He is a human trafficking serial rapist. End of story. Anything else is just spewing his own propaganda to legitimize the very real hurt he does to the world.
How naive is u?
The main error here is thinking that because some women are motivated by money that we can generalize that to all women. And then use that to justify general misogyny.
There are horrible women and horrible men in the world. Prejudging everyone in a class because some members of the class are horrible is wrong.
No doubt that is a nuanced and fair take but that's ain't the world we live in.
People make snap decisions on bad or wrong data all the time.
Yeah, as if plenty of men wouldn’t have a baby with a rich woman if she was offering $100k/mo child support or some shit.
The numbers work differently if you swap the sexes like that, but the motivations don’t.
They’re never gonna see any of that money.
Why are the women doing it? Power imbalance is probably a big factor.
You think elon is pressuring all these women to get preggers lol
Partly psychopathic manipulation, partly sleeping around for career advancement. It’s a tale as old as time.
REMEMBER: If you have to have sex with you boss for advancement, that doesn’t make you a slut, that makes them a sex-offender.
“career advancement” is euphemism designed to switch the power dynamic.
fernandofigTo the extent that a boss demanding sex in exchange for career advancement, I agree that makes them sex offenders. But those women still have a choice. They making the wrong choice doesn’t mean they aren’t the victim, but they still should be accountable for their choice.
Agree. Rape and sexual assault nare one thing, and always deplorable. But as presented above, this isn’t that. It’s consensual sex with the hope of advancement.
If the power dynamic is abused by the boss for the purposes of attaining that sex, that’s sexual assault.
Edit: I am not condoning this event with Elon. I’m discussing the abstract difference, while acknowledging the power imbalance
Here’s the problem….
Because of the power imbalance you can never divorce the two, even if she chased him.
That’s not a moral judgement, just a reality that “perspective “ matters here and if she chased him and then decides 3 years later that he unduly promoted her to try and convince her to have sex with him, BOOM he’s screwed, because she’s got a valid point.
I don’t know the answer, but he’s definitely doing things he shouldn’t.
And let’s be real, he’s likely a VERY shitty dad.
I fully acknowledged the power imbalance
Right but you’re missing the whole “you can’t separate sexual abuse from the power imbalance”
It’s like when a female guard has sex with a male inmate.
I believe that most of the time that happens, the inmate went after the guard. I also believe that if you asked the inmate that they consented to it 100%.
But because the power dynamic at play is so severe, you just have to hardline it and say that as the CEO it’s illegal for you to dip in the company ink.
Probably not worth jail time, maybe just lose your job and be forbidden from directorships/ceo for 10 years?
No I’m not missing it, I’m highlighting the above comment I replied to, which discusses that.
Ahhh then I misunderstood.
Have a nice day!
You too
The power dynamic is ever present. Can a person detained by a law enforcement officer consent to sex with that officer?
Of course not, that’s why I said exploiting the power dynamic is sexual assault
ThirdWorldOrderOh so I shouldn’t have divorced my ex wife then
If you have to sleep with someone to get a promotion, its not worth it.
What are you basing this on?
Read the article MondayToFriday linked to you.
So nothing ...
I’d venture a guess that his primary skill in life and business is pressuring other people so that he gets what he wants.
MyOpinionWhy are women doing this? They have a baby with him and they are able to get child support and spousal support for 18 years and maybe for life. This is a nice deal for a few nights of sex with this idiot.
So women care more about the money than ensuring kid has a father?
snooggumsSome do, most don’t. A lot fall for powerful men with lots of money, and my guess is that Musk throws out advances on as many women as he is able and playing the odds with and advantage means he will find a lot of the women who desire what he has to offer from money to attention to the experience.
I would bet that out of the dozen at least one did it for the money, at least one was an accident they decided to keep, and at least one did it because they thought he night marry them.
Nothing is universally true for all women exceot for the fact that they are women.
HubiNot “women” in general. But there will always be willing idiots somewhere.
True, let me fix that
Patapon EnjoyerI would definitely raise a bastard for 5 figures every month.
Economics do be like that and we are all subject to needing money.
I was getting more at society loves to shit on men for walking out on kids but women don't get grief for setting up a family without a father...
There are women who intentionally choose to be a single parent. Like they’re single, they get a sperm donor, have a kid. It’s not some insane thing. Kids should have a supportive and caring environment, whomever raises them. Not every kid with a single caregiver is neglected, nor is every kid with 2 or more caregivers properly cared for.
Humans run the complete gamut from the good to bad, smart to stupid.
There will ALWAYS be some people ( this includes women) willing to do anything for a chance at money or even to just rub elbows with the rich, powerful, famous
Ever heard of groupies? Wilt Chamberlain supposedly slept with 10k women and has how many kids.
But to answer your question absolutely.
I think we can all agree on this, this was more of intellectual exercise.
with bigger point being, is that while dear leader is a cunt, these ladies aint angels or vistims. just getting their cut at the expense of kids having a father.
their lives, their choices. we really should not even be giving ol' ra anymore attention tbh. but every other day, here we are.
that and they wont get fired from their job
You don’t get spousal support because someone was a sperms donor to you or had a short term affair with you. That’s not how spousal support works.
But why are the women doing this?
Because of the implication.
stoneparchmentThe fact this has 40 up votes right now makes me feel like lemmy is losing a diverse user base. Like, where are the women to down vote this obviously shitty take?
Let’s list some reasons why these women could have done this that aren’t “women are sluts for clown daddies”:
- he’s their boss, and leveraging his insane power over them to make it hard to say no and keep their job
- he’s just an extremely powerful man and they’re afraid of pissing them off
- they have insecurities, like the “loser cuck” fallacy that they aren’t valuable or desirable as partners, and attention from someone as powerful as him feels like affirmation of their value even if they don’t like him or he treats them badly
- they understand that, by not resisting his advances, they might be able to provide themselves a link to a financial source that could support them and a child
- he literally sexually harasses, assaults, or rapes them and they don’t feel like they can criminally pursue one of the richest men in the world
Like, yeah, some of them might be individuals who have bad taste in men or are shitty people themselves. I’m even certain that some of them are! But damn, can we take the perspective of the woman for one second? It’s not a good look to find yourself agreeing with incels on the internet
Or they’re shitty tech executives and are shit people, which has nothing to do with gender.
Sure, notice that I included this possibility in the last paragraph.
Also notice that that possibility doesn’t reinforce the perspective that “women are sluts for clown daddies”
I’m a man and I’d probably slut it out a bit for a clown mommie
Aight you got me there
I, too, am down to clown tbh
The fact this has 40 up votes right now makes me feel like lemmy is losing a diverse user base
Feel like it’s worth pointing out that user has over 360 comments, and they created that account 5 days ago.
That’s a good (and reassuring) observation!
Still, even if it’s a bot/troll/etc. post, if we don’t call it out when we see it, the culture of the community slowly shifts towards “bigotry is acceptable here”…
I’m gonna keep pointing this stuff out when I see it whether the user is acting in good faith or not :)
What I have thanks to money, what i pay for, i.e, what money can buy, that is what I, the possessor of the money, am myself. My power is as great as the power of money. The properties of money are my- (its owner’s)- properties and faculties. Thus what I am and what I am capable of is by no means determined by my individuality. I am ugly, but I can buy myself the most beautiful women. Consequently, I am not ugly, for the effect of ugliness, its power of repulsion, is annulled by money. As an individual I am lame, but money can create twenty four feet for me; so I am not lame; I am wicked, dishonest man without conscience or intellect, but money is honored and so also is its possessor. Money is the highest good and so its possessor is good. Money relieves me of the trouble of being dishonest, so I am presumed to be honest. I may have no intellect, but money is the true mind of all things and so how should its possessor have no intellect? Morever he can buy himself intellectuals, and is not the man who has power over intellectuals not more of [an] intellectual than they?
–Marx, 1844 Manuscripts