Miah JohnsonJun 20, 2024

Remember kids:

IRC is free.
IRC is a open standard.
You can run your own IRC server.
IRC doesn't collect data on you and sell it.
You can still moderate your channels via invite, voice, and ban modes.
You can run a server on a 486.
IRC doesn't try to up sell you on "nitro".
IRC doesn't need to make money to make some VC happy.

Show threadAI6YR BenJun 20, 2024
@miah I don't get why so many people willingly handcuff themselves to subscription services. (although, I do get companies who are unable to figure out how to run their own infrastructure and decide it's easier to outsource it, i.e. slack)
Show threadposiputtJun 20, 2024
@ai6yr I think it's the old problem of not everyone knowing about things that existed before the thing that just happened to them. discord is more accessible to so-called "normies". same with linux. same with nextcloud. same with xmpp. same with everything that is not on the app store/google play. same with everything that is used mainly by the tech-savvy. capitalism knows how to sell convenience over agency. @miah
Show threadposiputt
@ai6yr also, I don't want to be antagonistic, but the phrase "I don't get why people" seems to be (at least to me) part of that very problem. it's a kind of soft gatekeeping. treating the non-obvious choice as the obvious choice just isn't gonna win anyone over. @miah
Jun 20, 2024 at 7:39pmWeb
Show threadposiputtJun 20, 2024
@ai6yr (okay last thing I promise): I am absolutely in favour of using irc, xmpp, linux and all that, and I do. but I also use discord, because I know people that won't use IRC, ever. because it's weird and old and text-based and they'd have to learn new rules and how the whole decentralized thing works and why would they? noone they know (except me) would even be there. @miah
Show threadKill cars for climate!Jun 21, 2024
@posiputt @ai6yr @miah Additionally, IRCs culture is not very welcoming and at times downright gate-keepy.