Battery electric vehicles lose their spark in Europe as hybrids steal the show

https://lemmy.world/post/16737637

Battery electric vehicles lose their spark in Europe as hybrids steal the show - Lemmy.World

Important to know that real-world testing shows that PHEVs are rarely plugged in and just burn oil much of the time
Real-world usage of plug-in hybrid vehicles in Europe: A 2022 update on fuel consumption, electric driving, and CO2 emissions - International Council on Clean Transportation

Analysis of the average real-world fuel consumption and electric driving share of PHEVs in Europe, with an emphasis on WLTP type-approved vehicle models.

International Council on Clean Transportation
And burn even more than pure ICEs since they also carry the added weight from the electric stuff. At a time where we need much less cars overall, including EVs.

That’s news to me considering the EPA-rated fuel economy of vehicles with both hybrid and pure ICE drivetrains is universally higher for the hybrid versions.

An ICE vehicle needs a much larger engine than is truly necessary due to the inefficiencies and limitations of mechanical transmissions, whereas a hybrid can have a much smaller, more efficient engine.

A hybrid can potentially act like a ‘perfect’ transmission, capable of taking in power from an engine running at its single most efficient RPM and, with the aid of battery storage, produce any combination of speed and torque that has an average power less than the output of the ICE.

I think what he might be saying is running a Plug in hybrid only on gas takes more than a regular hybrid because of the extra weight. That makes sense to me but I’m not sure if that’s what he means
They said “pure ICE,” so I don’t think that’s what they’re saying. But yes, a non-plugin hybrid should do better than a plugin hybrid if the plugin is never plugged in.

But it doesn’t. PHEVs can still regenerate during braking though. ICE only vehicles can cut fuel when off throttle, but that’s not going reclaim the heat lost to braking.

PHEVs should still be more efficient overall especially in cities and stop and go traffic.

If we had ICE only vehicles with tiny engines maybe your point could work, but we don’t anymore at least not in the US.