Daring FireballJun 20, 2024
A Rose by Any Other Name Would Smell as Sweet; An Encryption Back Door by Any Other Name Would Still Smell Like Shit
https://daringfireball.net/linked/2024/06/19/signal-eu-encryption-upload-moderation
A Rose by Any Other Name Would Smell as Sweet; An Encryption Back Door by Any Other Name Would Still Smell Like Shit

Link to: https://signal.org/blog/pdfs/upload-moderation.pdf

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Show threadShad
@daringfireball Where are all the EU defenders here? It's crickets.
Jun 20, 2024 at 4:08amMastodon for iOS
Show threaddmitriidJun 20, 2024

@shadash @daringfireball

Literally no one defends this.

It doesn't mean that Gruber's shitty view on actual *useful* legislation is valid.

Guess what, laws are complex, and some of them can be good, and some of them can be bad

Show threadShadJun 20, 2024
@dmitriid @daringfireball Turning iOS into Android isn't useful. Apple fucked up in letting this situation get out of hand, but that does not mean that the DMA is a well-crafted piece of legislation. Once regulators start talking about the “spirit" of the law, we've left the actual rule of law.
Show threaddmitriidJun 20, 2024

@shadash @daringfireball

1. No one is talking about turning iOS into Android.

2. Yes, it's entirely Apple's fault. All the damage (whether real or perceived) is entirely self-inflicted

3. The spirit of the law is *always* taken into consideration and of course it doesn't mean that we've left the actual rule of the law, no matter matter what you tell yourself

Show threadBenRiceMJun 20, 2024
@shadash @daringfireball this isn’t team sports, you can agree with some of the EU’s decisions and not others. You can agree with their principles but not the implementation details.
Show threadShadJun 20, 2024
@BenRiceM @daringfireball From my perspective, the EU treats regulation like a team sport. The home team gets all the breaks.
Show threadIzzardJun 20, 2024
@shadash @BenRiceM @daringfireball Well, just like any legislative body, the EU can only enforce the law within its own jurisdiction.
Show threaddmitriidJun 20, 2024

@shadash @BenRiceM @daringfireball

Because you, like Gruber, have no idea what the EU is, and what it does, and come it it with an extremely limited view of "whatever a supranational US corporation does is good actually".

This is a good overview of what people are missing: https://www.baldurbjarnason.com/2024/facing-reality-in-the-eu-and-tech/

Facing reality, whether it's about Apple or the EU, is a core requirement for good management

Web dev at the end of the world, from Hveragerði, Iceland

Show threadBenRiceMJun 20, 2024
@dmitriid @shadash @daringfireball Great article!
Show threadNitJun 20, 2024

@dmitriid @shadash @BenRiceM @daringfireball thank you, good breakdown.

Always annoys me when Gruber spins the situation as a US targeted witch hunt. It’s short sighted and petty. Plenty of European companies have, rightly, been sanctioned by the EU too (from banks, telecommunications, car makers to big oil).