Riddick3001Stonehenge sprayed with paint by environmental protesters – DW – 06/19/2024
BombOmOmFuck these people.
mipadaituThey didn’t destroy anything, the paint can be removed without ruining the site, and they brought more visibility than sitting around with signs.
I don’t have a problem with this.
I’m not sure visibility is really what we need at this point. Is there anyone left on Earth that doesn’t know about it? I think what we need instead is political mobilization and coalition-building to increase our political clout and ultimately win elections and create legislation.
Yeah I think awareness where they ruin yachts and private planes is better than destroying common cultural heritage. Wtf
Ah but you see then JustStopOil’s millionaire founder might have his expensive toys damaged then.
eksbThey probably know that if they put corn starch on Stonehenge they’ll be in jail for a few days and get community service, but if they put spray paint on a billionaire’s yacht, they’d get shot.
Well the top comment was “fuck these people” so if the goal was to build broad public support it is having the opposite effect.
Alternatively, EVERYONE is cheering for those fucking Orcas, so… Imagine being dumber than a whale.
Waiting for news where orcas attack mega yatch.
Please!
And ignored
“It will go away, no harm done” is your stance? Well, there is harm done, if not only on the societkes feeling of sanity and security.
“No harm done”? Wenn,then let me waterboard you, hit you, hit your wife and children. The blue specks will go away, no harm done. Your psychological effects? They will go away, seek therapy. You’re still less affected people than the society.
Of course this was sarcasm. But think about what stance you just took and reflect.
What was the purpose of that action? To seed shock and “ruffle some feathers”, sow disbalance under the coat of “shaking sleeping people up”.
A goal at which it has singularly failed. There’ll be a bit of noise in the papers for a day or two, Stonehenge will be cleaned off with “No harm done” and life will move on with no useful change.
Their stunts were effective the first time or two, but now are largely ignored or even just cause irritation.
If they, indeed we, want to change the trajectory of human caused climate damage we need to build bridges at the community level and bring people together to force the hand of the political class. These stunts don’t do that, they just give ammunition to those who seek to prevent positive change.
Are you suggesting stones suffer psychological effects?
they do that but then nobody cares and it doesn't make the news
Maybe it’s that this is a better a metaphor for the destruction of the common cultural heritage of the environment? Not many people can relate to or are inconvenienced but a very expensive private boat sinking.
The amount of people justifying calling it global warming is still is kinda shocking to be honest. The ignorance is probably why people are still bringing kt to light.
Theres people in the comments saying it causes warming and that’s why they call it that……
I was told for over a decade that it was global warming. Are you telling me all those people were wrong?
Yes, it’s propaganda lmfao. Wow.
OfCourseNotYou are right. Sort of, climate crisis would be more appropriate. The word 'warming' is not concerning enough, if at all, and doesn't convey the actual gravity of the current situation very well.
people are aware of it in the sense that it's a thing that vaguely exists on the horizon
if society doesn't want to be melted by climate change, that demonstrably isn't going to be enough to stop it
I’m not so sure. That was probably true before the past decade of record breaking heat waves, intensifying storms, etc.
Now it’s a variety of other problems, from not giving a fuck and hoping god raptures them before then, to having other priorities like the economy and thinking technical solutions will fix it, to not believing it’s human-caused, etc. It’s political hurdles now, convincing people of the importance of helpful measures, as opposed to simply trying to remind them of the problem.
Apparently everyone still doesn’t get how serious it is if they get worked up over paint on Stonehenge more than over the climate catastrophy.
The assumption that people think problems need to be solved is just that, an assumption. Conservatives believe in tradition, where problems do not get fixed. Fixing problems = bad, because fixes are changes from tradition.
Most people are somewhere on a scale between conservative and progressive though. But you certainly don’t want to just assume most people want things fixed, it’s unfortunately just not true. It’s just projecting progressive personality traits onto people that have less of them for whatever reason.
So no, not apparently. It’s much, much worse than simple ignorance.
IheartcheeseImagine they spray painted your car and then somebody said why are you mad about your car when the environment is fucked.
I don’t have a car.
And took a job that pays less than other offers, cause it’s within bicycle distance from my home, which I chose cause it’s in a bike-friendly area.
I know the impact is low, but at least I’m not part of the problem. I don’t think I could cut down on my CO2 any more while still living in society.
And took a job that pays less than other offers, cause it’s within bicycle distance from my home, which I chose cause it’s in a bike-friendly area.
I know the impact is low, but at least I’m not part of the problem. I don’t think I could cut down on my CO2 any more while still living in society.
Okay imagine somebody vandalized your bike and then said you shouldn’t be complaining when the environment is fucked.
I really don’t understand what point you’re trying to make here.
They don’t vandalize the property of private citizens.
Their critics say they should (spray paint private jets instead of rocks).
This is more like “what if someone vandalized the scenic rock formation I can see from my bedroom window”.
And if they spray painted a message about fightng the climate catastrophy on it, I’d love it.
talI don’t think that there is any purpose to “bringing visibility” to global warming in 2024. Effectively everyone is already aware of global warming and has been for some time.
The issue isn’t awareness, but disagreement over the weight to put on policies to mitigate it. And I don’t expect that doing stuff like this is going to change people’s positions on that weight.
The fact that you’re using the wrong term just shows to show that yeah, it kinda does need more visibility I guess.
Grow up and stop trying to start fights over stupid bullshit please
It’s not global warming though, it’s climate change because it causes extremes at both ends. It’s extremely important to stop perpetuating the wrong term.
Global warming is still a correct term because the globe is warming.
Some areas aren’t getting warmer. But the globe is. Hence global warming, not everywhere without exception warming.
We only moved on to saying climate change because some morons were pushing the same bullshit view that you are - iF gLoBaL wARmiNg iS ReAL hOw CoMe XYZ pLacE wAs CoLdEr tHiS yEaR???4
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Funnily enough, that’s exactly why we no longer use warming, since people need to continually explain that no, it’s just warming….
We seem to agree that it causes extremes at both ends, it just seems like it’s a bunch of dinosaurs in this thread that can’t comprehend they were taught the incorrect term.
Yes, that’s what I said. We generally say climate change now because people have idiotic takes like yours and don’t understand that global warming means warming of the globe.
We had to change the language used because people like you can’t parse basic English or apply the smallest amount of thought to the phrase.
What "wrong term"? Global warming? Because The Guardian prefers to call it "global heating"? Or am I missing something, because that complaint would be amazingly petty.
Anyway it's not about bringing visibility to global warming to make people aware that it's going on. It's about making a statement. That statement, as I understand it, is "Climate change! Wake the fuck up and do something about it, people!" I don't know if anything will sufficiently get that message through, but it's understandable that they want to try, and painting Stonehenge orange (reportedly in a non-toxic water-soluble paint that will wash away in the rain) seems like a somewhat effective way to get the attention of the news media.
Climate change, the article literally only uses that them…
It’s climate change since it causes extremes at both ends.
Your ignorance isn’t an excuse.
Yes, the phenomenom under discussion is climate change. Specifically, it's that change which is a result of the anthropogenic net radiative forcing that increasingly puts more energy into the global climate system, making it less predictable, more dangerous in various ways, and generally warmer, a.k.a. "global warming."
It's not a religion. Correct spelling of the magic incantations does not matter. Calling it global warming, like Al Gore did, in casual conversation is fine.
and generally warmer, a.k.a. “global warming.”
Incorrect, it also make colder temperatures colder, it’s not “generally”, one way or the other.
See, the wrong shit IS STILL being perpetuated, and the wrong term only exacerbates it. Case in point, your ignorant comment.
The earth is getting warmer, which brings chaos to a complex system. The result is extreme weather, sometimes cold and wet. But it is getting warmer on a global scale.
What a weird misconception to have. I wonder where you got it from.
The term global warming is used a political dog whistle, it was used by politicians to further a political agenda. See marijuana, crack, hippies, etc.
Marijuana is actually cannabis, and anyone who incorrectly uses the term can be easily seen for their bias or their lack of education on the subject.
The term isn’t incorrect in the slightest.
The globe is warming.
I don’t see why you’re concocting these crazy conspiracy theories.
You just keep on doubling down
I guess they meant using “climatic change” as the preferred term. Global warming is not used that much because it is not just about warmer climate. With term like global warming you have people denying it exists every time it snows
It’s less about visibility that it’s happening, but that it’s not properly fought.
If this isnt going to change anyones opinions, then why the outrage? We’re all fucked anyways, so let them be upset.
More people tone policing these activists than are upset about the very possible end of our species.
Then it’s a good thing you’re not in charge of maintaining and preserving Stonehenge.
Doesn’t matter. It’s a protected site and there’s protected species living on the stones. So they should be prosecuted on two counts at least. It’s illegal. If I’d have shot a protester for being a cunt I’d be prosecuted.
Luckily, they stay on brand and don't use oil paint, it's just cornstarch and will wash off in the rain.
i think climate change might do slightly more harm to the protected species
Climate change will also kill millions of people, so …
While it's not damaged and will just wash off in the rain, they shouldn't be doing this to irrelevant monuments. It's getting nobody on your side.
magnetosphereirrelevant monuments
“Irrelevant”? Huh? I think you’re a victim of autocorrect
A monument built thousands and thousands of years ago has no correlation to current day pollution/climate change. I think you missed the context. They should be targeting polluters or protectors of polluters, not an innocent heritage site.
How is Stonehenge irrelevant?
Stonehenge is a monument built thousands of years ago, way before humans started mass polluting the Earth, how is it relevant to climate change?
It's relevant to climate change in that it was recently used by Just Stop Oil activists to draw attention to their cause. I guess one could also say that the sudden violent transformation of ancient stones that have stood largely unchanged for thousands of years is symbolically appropriate.
Oh, I completely misunderstood your comment. Thought you were saying Stonehenge is irrelevant just in general which would be crazy to me
I know “there isno bad press” but more people will think “fuck those guys” than “maybe environment does neex saving” upon reading these news.
Also just because they were responsible about their dick move doesn’t mean everybody will be. Or something happens that causes long term damage by accident.
I care for environment greatly but I’d slap these people as long as I could lift my hands and then some.
They are basically 5th columning environmental causes when they do shit like this.
Obligatory Astroturfing warning.
yeah? why?