ACAB. - Lemmy.World

Serious question: What’s the leftists position on police in the ideal but realistic socialist world? What would make ACAB irrelevant?

Probably some combination of:

Require them to have a 4 year degree No qualified immunity Make them also liable to civil suits Heavily slash their budget Disarm all of them, save maybe for SWAT much, much better descalation training (pretty sure they’re trained to escalate immediately)

In the UK, the training requirements for police is still surprising to me, as I had assumed it would take years to train as police.

Either way, our police meet a lot of the criteria here. The budgets are nonexistent, they aren’t armed outside of specific circumstances, and they all go through regular de-escalation training.

It hasn’t stopped many of the issues we see that are also shared in law enforcement in the states. Our force often uses force unnecessarily, there is institutional corruption and racism, and even in instances where the police have done something bad AND there is evidence it’s very hard to find justice.

I think that a degree would help, or a training programme that takes many years and involves extensive training. It’s depressing to say, but the demand for good jobs with decent pay and employment protection would probably result in people becoming police just for the pension. I would also add that a good avenue to policing would be for it to link heavily with the law profession. Add a route for police to train part-time to be criminal lawyers, or for lawyers to join the police force.