lemmy user(ule)s: "this sign won't stop me because i can't read"

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lemmy user(ule)s: "this sign won't stop me because i can't read" - Lemmy Cafe

https://www.specialolympics.org/stories/impact/why-the-r-word-is-the-r-slur [https://www.specialolympics.org/stories/impact/why-the-r-word-is-the-r-slur]

I understand not calling disabled people the word, because mocking people for something about themselves they didn’t choose (like a disability) is cruel, I am totally on board with never using words in this way to target disabled people.

I don’t understand why I can’t use the word to mock someone who is not intellectually disabled for choosing not to use their perfectly well-functioning brain, it seems like a very apt analogy. It communicates “you aren’t disabled, you have no excuse for acting like it, start choosing to use the fully functional brain you have”.

Additionally, only the “r-word” seems to be the bad one, despite there being many other words in our language that originally began as a medical descriptor for intellectually disabled folks. If I call someone a moron for running a red light because they’re playing with their phone nobody bats an eye, but if I call them the “r-word” I’m a terrible person?

It communicates “you aren’t disabled, you have no excuse for acting like it, start choosing to use the fully functional brain you have”.

look, if this doesn’t make you see how it’s a shitty thing to say, i don’t think anyone else can help you understand.

i appreciate how they admitted it out loud: “but how can i harrass people and call them unintelligent if the r-slur is unacceptable?”

what about dont call people unintelligent. hm?

What is wrong with calling people unintelligent when they are doing unintelligent things that are directly causing me problems (for example, people on their phones blowing through red lights?) If someone tries to change lanes into me and I say “are you blind? You almost hit me!” is that similarly bad?
yes haha

Well I guess that’s where we disagree. It’s clearly offensive to make fun of a blind person for being blind, no one should do that. But I do not see how it is offensive to actual blind people to call a sighted person “blind” for refusing to use their eyes. It is of course not polite to the person I’m speaking to, but that is the point, there are plenty of times it is ok to be rude to people, such as when they’re harming you. Offending purposely harmful people like bigots, racists; and negligently harmful people like inattentive drivers, people who leave knives pointing up in the dishwasher, etc presents me with no moral quandary.

I’m not sure if you’re saying it’s offensive to disabled people to make the comparison, offensive to the abled person you are speaking to, or both.

I don’t agree with OP that you should not be able to call someone unintelligent… But I do think the r word is potentially hurtful to actually mentally disabled people, so I wouldn’t use it for that reason.

i don’t think you shouldn’t ever be allowed to call someone names, not sure where you got that lol. for the record i 100% agree with your comment :)

sorry if i come across any other way i just personally find it important to sass people who vehemently defend “muh rights” to use established slurs

It’s only an “established slur” to some people (mostly in online niche communities), to a lot of people it’s just everyday speech. Words such as retarded, special needs, intellectually disabled, moron, imbecile and more are all terms used to describe a disability, just like “blind”. I’m tired of this artificially accelerated pejoration sped along by people who just want to correct others to feel good about themselves, the euphemism treadmill for people with intellectual disabilities in particular spins faster than for any other topic. We haven’t invented 15 different phrases for blind in the last 50 years, there’s no reason to do it for disabled brains any more than for disabled eyeballs.

Instead that energy should be focused on ensuring people don’t use someone’s disability to put the disabled person down. Those people are the real problem, not normal folks criticizing people for their shitty behaviors they can control, not immutable characteristics about themselves.

It’s only an “established slur” to some people

false. 🥰 blocked for continuing to vehemently defend your right to say slurs.

Foolish seems like a useful word, probably could be substituted and keep the intended meaning intact.

gets cut off

FOOL OF A TOOK

That is infinitely funnier, using solely LoTR quotes would make road rage much more humorous