using linux will save u from microsoft recall, but only in the sense that microsoft's best engineers can't work out how to record your screen in wayland
@jacqueline still not safe from their worst engineers
@hipsterelectron they're installing gnome in the background, running your usual session in a fullscreen window, and then just using gnome's built in screen recorder
@jacqueline background gnomes sound super cute maybe i will simply have to amass a larger gnome force for a preemptive strike
@jacqueline last I checked using a popular text-expander app wasn't supported in Wayland, there is hope!
@harshad @jacqueline espanso? My issue with it is there's no rpm or Flatpak that I could find for any recent version, and no build instructions for my distro, and I don't care enough to sink the time into figuring it out. They say that it works on Wayland in recent releases, but I can't try those out.
Request for flatpak · espanso espanso · Discussion #1190

Really nice project and definitely what I was looking for. I'm opening a request for a flatpak packages (which could be published on flathub) as an alternative to Snap. Thanks !

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"become ungovernable!"
display server: "ok."

@jacqueline yes, my batshit tiling window manager is a defense mechanism
@jacqueline the intricacies of xdg-desktop-portal!
@baloo @jacqueline Oh, right. The desktop portal... The portal for wlroots, the portal chosen specially to screen share on wlroots, wlroots’ portal. the one I forgot to install 💀

@Eclipse @jacqueline it's actually quite nice underneath.

This is a service exposed on dbus, it grabs the backing buffer from the GPU, exposes the flow over a pipewire stream and replies back to the requestor with the stream url.

@baloo @jacqueline I’m aware, I learned a stupid amount about how portals work when trying to make my own file portal for fun
@Eclipse @jacqueline I want to make the output of OBS expose itself as a portal at some point.
@jacqueline microsoft edge rolls out recall for linux but it only runs under xorg
@admin @jacqueline It only runs under Hyper-V. MS has no plans to release a Linux app to recall the snapshots, but you can use the native Windows app on the host to recall Linux guest screens. Training the model on all your VMs leads to an improved user experience…
@jacqueline systemd is gonna get a windowing system, isn’t it
@aerique @jacqueline gonna be lit when X11 fights Weyland to the death on the Games Grid
@jacqueline To be fair, part of the problem is that recording the screen involves the GPU. And GPUs are cursed.
@jacqueline As people say: "Try your worst!"
@jacqueline the mnt pocket reform operator handbook is out and mention three apps for screen grabbing under wayland I believe :)
I can't imagine what kind of demon they bribed to get such dark knowledge
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I'm not sure Wayland engineers can do that either though, so we're probably safe for ... ever?
@kianryan @jacqueline having tried to do this recently … 🫠 (I wanted to stream pixel data from the screen edges to make an ambilight Steam Deck)

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Finally, a compelling reason to use Wayland.

@jacqueline @JoSuus Influential linux developers (I wont say good) work for MS and are trying to make Linux more Windozy and less Unixy (Embrace. Extend, Extinguish) so I bet they already have. I don’t use Linux either!
@jacqueline it's called security. For the ones eating crayon at the back of the class: that's a feature.
@jacqueline you wayland users may have bested us for now, but soon... we will have our revenge.. >:3c
@jacqueline I thought Zoom engineers already used the same technology as Microsoft Recall for doing screensharing on Wayland: lots of screenshots.
@jacqueline I'm going to keep rotating my shield harmonics by installing a different distro every weekend
@jacqueline worst case scenario microsoft configures my desktop for me
@jacqueline Certainly too much work for them... for now.
@jacqueline meanwhile KDE Spectacle only being able to screen record on Wayland
@jacqueline except in cases where I actually forgot to set up neither X11 or Wayland in my machine, in that case, it's either stored in an unsecured pastebin deep in the depths of Microsoft
@jacqueline Microsoft's "best" engineers were probably all laid off for the false promises of AI